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View Poll Results: What is most to blame for male high school students being about twice as likely to get suspended as
Biology - Testosterone 20 60.61%
Culture - Males are raised to be more aggressive 8 24.24%
Discrimination - Schools have a bias against males 5 15.15%
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Old 06-09-2017, 02:12 PM
 
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This issue is similar to the fact that males are also far more likely to end up in prison than women. Makes me wonder, where is the liberal outrage over that? Wouldn't they say that different results is proof of discrimination? It seems to work that way with them when discussing racial differences or the so called "gender wage gap".
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Old 06-09-2017, 02:26 PM
 
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"Males more likely to get Suspended than Female High School Students"

Boys tend to act up a bit more than girls, however I do believe girls are catching up. At least, that's what I've seen.
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Old 06-09-2017, 02:41 PM
 
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I think it was more designed for some weird puritanical obedience. The school system has changed since 1800, but most of the core principles are largely the same, and that was designed for boys... sort of. I really don't think the sex was considered much in the methods. It was more "shut up, listen, and do as you should" and if you didn't, they beat your or publicly shame you, neither of which happens in modern school systems. The main punishment anymore is just imposed boredom.
Yes, I should have worded that differently. I didn't mean it was intentionally designed that way.

But you're definitely right on the obedience thing. It's the Prussian model, intentionally adopted because it was meant to create obedient soldiers, factory workers, and I'd personally say "robots" who are easier to control.

It probably wasn't even bad intentions (although that might be naive), but it's just easier to govern people who do as their told and act predictably.
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Old 06-09-2017, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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There was an interesting article I read some months ago that studied the data between males and females in regards to grades, graduation rates, and suspension rates. From what the data showed, there was a link in school quality. They found that boys and girls in lower-ranked schools as a whole were suspended more often than those in higher-ranked schools. But they also found that the lower the ranking of said school, the wider that gap is between boys and girls... even amongst siblings.

Even in siblings, they found that the girls were suspended less, performed better, and had a higher chance of graduating.

There has been some other interesting studies done on how boys, even during gestation, are more negatively affected by things like stress than girls tend to be. And their response to stress and negative feelings tends to include more aggression.

So more than likely a combination of biological, culture, class structure, school response, and socioeconomic factors.
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:57 PM
 
Location: London
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Schools are definitely harder on boys, I think. In elementary and middle school, I cut class daily, blatantly cheated on tests, I was very disruptive (as in, cussing teachers and other faculty out to their faces), and even engaged in vandalism.

I got lunch detention only 3-4 times, and most of those times, successfully talked my way out of actually having to serve it. They called my parents pretty often, but my parents usually ignored their calls.

Meanwhile, I've seen other students actually get suspended for tiny things, like merely talking back to a teacher, saying a swear word in conversation with their friends, etc. Most of the time, these were males.

Thankfully I grew out of that by the time I reached high school, so I think the harsh treatment of male students is unnecessary.
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