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Women are less happy because they entered the workforce.
Most women can't work a 50+ hour a week stressful job without having mental issues. That is the cold hard truth. A lot of men can't do it either, but with women, it's the majority. This is why so many women with professional career type jobs are absolute train-wrecks when compared to stay at home moms or women working low stress entry level jobs.
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I think that perhaps some younger people these days (boy, I am old, aren't I--get off my lawn!), especially women, do not understand fully what it was like to want to take a Shop class in high school just once instead of Home Ec and not be allowed to do so because Shop was only for boys, or to not be able to participate in sports because prior to Title 9 there was never money in the school budget for girls' athletics. Or to have a prospective male boss say, "Stand up, Honey, and turn around," because he wants to see the rear view before he decides whether he wants to hire you. Or, like my mom, to know that if you get pregnant (even though you are married and do a great job) you will have no job after you start to show, because it's office policy to fire pregnant women.
The feminist movement wasn't perfect, but it was sorely needed. Seriously, turn it back? That must be something some men dream of, but for a woman, it would be a nightmare.
One of my cousins went through that in high school back in the late 1970s (she's 56). She wanted to take Shop, as well as major in a STEM-related field in college, and her guidance counselors were telling her to major in English, teacher education, etc. They also wanted her to take Home Ec... her grandmother had a degree in Domestic Science/Homemaking from Cornell, so there wouldn't have been anything her HS could teach her that she didn't already learn from both her mother and grandmother.
My aunt went toe-to-toe with the school on that score. My aunt IS a feminist - the first copies of Ms. magazine I ever saw were the ones on her coffee table in her house.
My cousin ended up going to Alfred State and eventually worked as a Haz Mat specialist for Shaw AFB in SC for quite a few years (she retired earlier this year due to health issues).
I like where we've come to, won't lie....
but, there are people who take it way too far....
would I want to go back, absolutely not, but I have a problem with these so called I-rate women who snap at men who hold the door open for them, or who want more and more pregnancy leaves, without any concern for who is going to do their job while they are gone....
FWIW, I have never seen a guy my own age or younger who has a clue on the proper way to hold a door for someone. They aren't supposed to walk through it first and then hold it open; they are supposed to open it, let the other person walk through and then walk through it themselves. If I were to snap at them it would be for that not so little breech of etiquette.
Seems only older men (like my dad's age - 77) know the proper way to do it.
And as far as picking up the slack for leave time, that is what temp services are for.
Not at my job. By the time the temp would be at the point of being able to work independently using our computer system and following our task procedures (like for Accounts Receivable/Payable), the leave would be over.
Most women can't work a 50+ hour a week stressful job without having mental issues.
Oh please. What a load of crap. Women have worked stressful jobs for years and without “mental” issues. Of course, I suspect your definition of “mental” issues includes expecting a man to help out with household chores ( AKA “women’s“ work). Or, god forbid, having an opinion or expecting to have a say in decisions that effect her.
I suspect the most stressful thing many women deal with isn’t their jobs. It’s men who think it’s still 1960.
Women are less happy because they entered the workforce.
Most women can't work a 50+ hour a week stressful job without having mental issues. That is the cold hard truth. A lot of men can't do it either, but with women, it's the majority. This is why so many women with professional career type jobs are absolute train-wrecks when compared to stay at home moms or women working low stress entry level jobs.
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From 2003 to 2012 I worked 2 jobs, my normal FT day job (40 hours/week), and a temp seasonal job from 5-11 PM for another 20 hours/week for 2-3 months at a stretch. No mental problems here. Of course, I am also single with no kids.
Oh please. What a load of crap. Women have worked stressful jobs for years and without “mental†issues. Of course, I suspect your definition of “mental†issues includes expecting a man to help out with household chores ( AKA “women’s“ work). Or, god forbid, having an opinion or expecting to have a say in decisions that effect her.
I suspect the most stressful thing many women deal with isn’t their jobs. It’s men who think it’s still 1960.
Some women can do it, but most can't from my experiences. If the typical women working these jobs were held to same standards as their male counterparts, a lot of them would find themselves unemployed. Very few of the women working in middle or upper management at the the firms I've worked for didn't have the whole "emotional roller-coaster" thing going on. This is the very reason that even women statistically prefer male bosses.
I dont think women are less happy.
Women have always been in the workforce. The idea that women have led a life of leisure in the home is a myth. Ask the women prostituting themselves because they had no other means to earn a merger living, ask the women who were stripped of their children and all sent to workhouses, ask the women working sewing factories and fields, women doing others washing and cleaning then coming home to do the same for their families. Ask women who were stuck in abusive marriages how happy they were dependent and unable change their circumstance, ask women with talents and ambitions unable by laws and attitudes to fulfill their ambitions and follow their calling how happy they were. The unhappiness was because the workforce was limited and the pay so low they could barley survive much less scratch their way out of poverty.
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Most women can't work a 50+ hour a week stressful job without having mental issues. That is the cold hard truth. A lot of men can't do it either, but with women, it's the majority. This is why so many women with professional career type jobs are absolute train-wrecks when compared to stay at home moms or women working low stress entry level jobs.
Most men couldn't if they also had to be responsible for children, home, shopping, bill paying etc. Funny how women can hold down a 40+ hr./week job and still raise the kids and take care of the majority of other domestic duties.
And the facts are that men and women react to stress differently, not that one gender is more stressed than the other. The difference hardly manifests as mental issues or train wrecks:https://www.livescience.com/10140-st...le-brains.html
I'm sure you can google other supporting studies.
From 2003 to 2012 I worked 2 jobs, my normal FT day job (40 hours/week), and a temp seasonal job from 5-11 PM for another 20 hours/week for 2-3 months at a stretch. No mental problems here. Of course, I am also single with no kids.
Honestly, it's the single women that are usually wound tighter, but You're probably younger. Younger women seem to be able to keep it together a lot better than women in their late 30's and 40's; however post-menopause aged women tend to the easiest to work with from my experiences.
Women are less happy because they entered the workforce.
Most women can't work a 50+ hour a week stressful job without having mental issues. That is the cold hard truth. A lot of men can't do it either, but with women, it's the majority. This is why so many women with professional career type jobs are absolute train-wrecks when compared to stay at home moms or women working low stress entry level jobs.
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I wouldn't use the term 'mental issues'. From my experience and from what other women have said, what burned us out more than anything was coming home and not receiving any assistance with the daily household chores and/or child rearing. I think a lot of this was because earlier generations didn't have moms who left the house to work (waaaay back in the 50s, 60s for example, and obviously much before that as well).
We put in a full day at work then stopped to pick up the kids from daycare/babysitter, grocery shopped, or ran other errands; we'd get home and find our spouse enjoying TV and asking, "What's for dinner? I'm starved". Most husband "back then" believed they'd put in their "8" and their day was done.
Who would find this at home? That unfortunately was the typical scenario for working women to come home to many decades ago.
Hopefully today a husband/partner or s/o is more accommodating and not expecting one person to carry the majority of the load.
Many of us would say we enjoyed coming to work just so we could get some rest!
Mental issues? No, we were just worn out!
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