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Old 06-29-2017, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Trump has a long line of casualties of those that stepped into the ring with him, to go toe-to-toe. Sometimes, come to find out, he had both hands tied behind his back and still mopped the floor with them.

You would think they learned their lesson
Trump has a long line of business failures under his belt, too. But you knew that and chose to ignore it.
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Old 06-29-2017, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Ah yes, yet again with the false "mexican owned" nonsense. By now even you know thats not true, why do you keep saying it?

Found the person spreading "fake news"
Trump is fond of referring to the NYT as being Mexico- owned.

His base has a tendency to parrot whatever he says. Some don't know any better. Some know and ignore it because they view their purpose as spreading fake news that supports their ideology.

I cannot, for the life of me, wrap my head around people whose self esteem is dictated by partisanship. Sad. Really, really sad.
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Old 06-29-2017, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Hmm.. New York Times stock is up YTD. There financials show a profit. Since they are a publicly traded company we can see their numbers unlike the very fake claims of the private Trump Organization which is failing.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/NYT?ltr=1

It's down pennies today. I didn't bother to look at your daily quote, but it was a $50 stock just 10 years ago. Now, $17. THAT is not a good profile for a benchmark company.

SEARS/JC Penny is to B&M retail what NYT/WAPO is to publishing. The only thing that saved it from going bankrupt in 2009 was the election of Obama. Now they're trying to keep the magic going by being 100% against this administration. It's a very thin business model.


They're dead, but just don't know it yet.

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Trump is fond of referring to the NYT as being Mexico- owned.

His base has a tendency to parrot whatever he says. Some don't know any better. Some know and ignore it because they view their purpose as spreading fake news that supports their ideology.

I cannot, for the life of me, wrap my head around people whose self esteem is dictated by partisanship. Sad. Really, really sad.
It's easy for a partisan to see others partisanship and hard for them to see their own. (hint)


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Trump has a long line of business failures under his belt, too. But you knew that and chose to ignore it.
You're not partisan at all... you just hate Trump.

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Old 06-29-2017, 03:36 PM
 
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Again. Publicly traded company. Profitable and stock is up. Not the definition of failing.
I wonder why the NYTimes is getting rid of over 1/2 of their Editors - they are apparently (according to the Leftists) doing quite well. Why the staff reduction if everything is better than Hunky-Dory??

Love the "protest" signs ...... "No Editors - No Peace".
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Old 06-29-2017, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Sure, Carlos Slim has personally poured a pile of money into the NY Times. Hence "Mexican Owned". Doesn't mean it's not failing. The staff walkout is testimony to that.
Publicly- traded companies exist to increase shareholder value, no different than privately held companies cept the latter does not publicly disclose.

Hard- pressed to think of a publicly- traded company that has not embarked on employee buy- outs and lay- offs over the past several decades.

The business model of print media is evolving, at every publication. The jobs being targeted are Union jobs held by senior people, including the Home and Cooking divisions.

A print media that does not evolve to a digital enviornment is a media that will not survive.

The few dozen who walked out for 15 minutes resent that their future with the publication is going to be influenced by a 15 minute interview where they make the case why that create value. It does not matter that 22 years ago your recipe column recieved an award. Today, someone can do the job as a contractor and be compensated by number of clicks.
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Old 06-29-2017, 03:42 PM
 
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It's down pennies today. I didn't bother to look at your daily quote, but it was a $50 stock just 10 years ago. Now, $17. THAT is not a good profile for a benchmark company.

SEARS/JC Penny is to B&M retail what NYT/WAPO is to publishing.


They're dead, but just don't know it yet.



It's easy for a partisan to see others partisanship and hard for them to see their own. (hint)
Compare it to the print media in general. Everyone knows the industry is way down due to internet competition.

That said. Who do you think employs more in the country. Coal industry or print media industry?
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Old 06-29-2017, 03:46 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Trump called it right yet again.

The Mexican owned blog called the NY Times is falling apart. Now the entire editorial staff is walking out because they hate what the management is doing to the paper. (Better let Carlos Slim know)
Indeed, morale is so low at the NYT that its reporters and editors said they actually feel more respected by readers than by management. The letters referenced an internal report in which the copy editors were compared to dogs urinating on fire hydrants.

Bad days at the NY Times indeed. Big lawsuit filed by Sarah Palin, now staff is revolting. Like CNN they are a sinking ship.

Rebellion At The NYTimes: Newsroom To Walk Out After "Decrying Direction Of Paper" | Zero Hedge
There is no way this could possibly be fake news. It came from Zero Hedge.
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Old 06-29-2017, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Compare it to the print media in general. Everyone knows the industry is way down due to internet competition.

That said. Who do you think employs more in the country. Coal industry or print media industry?
Not sure how coal came into this. Who employs more, print media or McDonalds?

Even they don't insinuate their workers are dogs urinating on fire hydrants. That's another display of liberal arrogance in the face of a death spiral. The optics are really bad, and you'd think a company in such trouble would do everything they can to avoid such nonsense. Ah well, cancelled my subscription 10 years ago.
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Old 06-29-2017, 03:47 PM
 
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Personal attack. This means you can't address the fact that the NY Times is failing. i.e. Laying off staff, selling off assets, getting rid of floorspace.
You really play the "personal attack" card a lot. I think you are too sensitive for POC forum. You might want to take a leave of absence.
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Old 06-29-2017, 03:48 PM
 
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Newspapers also trying to put all the production jobs in the same building. My daily owns 5 or 6 more dailies. The paper is consolidating all those jobs in one town. The thinking is one beefed up staff can all layout all the papers in one place. Lots of those people will be looking for work.
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