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Old 07-01-2017, 10:12 AM
 
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yes - but with a very aggressive negative income tax or UBI.
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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Income inequality is higher today than it has ever been, .
due to Effort Inequality
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Its not rubbish, plenty of states in the South would eliminate the minimum wage if they could. Just because Arizona, a state that will soon be majority hispanic voted for a higher minimum wage does not mean all red states will.
Not just the south...Idaho's govt. would love to repeal minimum wage laws.
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:19 AM
 
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due to Effort Inequality
Inequality simply being the result of laziness flies in the face of reality. The reality is that the public opinion of the big majority of the American people have zero effect on public policy. The top 1% basically set public policy because they fund the puppets you vote for. And these puppets obey their financial overlords, not ordinary working stiffs. As long as people dont see this, and continue to blame "laziness" for the massive inequality we have today, nothing will change and oligarchic power will just increase further until a couple of people basically rule America like a modern day medieval kingdom.
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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Franklin D Roosevelt:



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Income inequality is higher today than it has ever been, it just passed the last peak in inequality and oligarchy, seen in 1928, right before the Great Depression.

Erosion of the minimum wage, destruction of the unions, anti-worker trade deals, deregulation of Wall St, weakening of anti-trust laws, huge tax breaks for the ruling donor class, weakening campaign finance regulations, its all part of a concentrated effort by the elite over the past decades to shift money and power from the 99% to themselves.
Classic fascist speech.
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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Conservatives always complain that the government spends too much money on welfare, food stamps and other social assistance. Guess what -- the best way to reduce government spending on social programs to have a living wage so the working poor no longer qualify for these programs. If we had a national $15/hr wage the taxpayer would save billions.
Let's put aside this evil idea of forcing people at gunpoint to pay for something above the fair market value.

Where would the money come from to pay for the wage increase?
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:25 AM
 
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Inequality simply being the result of laziness flies in the face of reality. The reality is that the public opinion of the big majority of the American people have zero effect on public policy. The top 1% basically set public policy because they fund the puppets you vote for. And these puppets obey their financial overlords, not ordinary working stiffs. As long as people dont see this, and continue to blame "laziness" for the massive inequality we have today, nothing will change and oligarchic power will just increase further until a couple of people basically rule America like a modern day medieval kingdom.
Free Market sets rates-which vary wildly. Its fluid. People quitting jobs, new hires rates, people fired, retiring..all affect it. Plus wild variations due to skills, education, an training required.

97.3% of America is not singing this via actions at work:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeC27B60-Mk
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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Free Market sets rates-which vary wildly. Its fluid. People quitting jobs, new hires rates, people fired, retiring..all affect it. Plus wild variations due to skills, education, an training required.

97.3% of America is not singing this via actions at work:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeC27B60-Mk
But 50% of Americans earn less than the median wage of $17.50 an hour. Increasingly, we see that the national income is concentrated into the hands of fewer and fewer hands. A tiny super rich elite lording over the masses and buying puppets people vote for which results to even more transfer of money to the ruling class.
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:39 AM
 
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But 50% of Americans earn less than the median wage of $17.50 an hour. .
Nothing wrong with that at all. in low COL regions, folks at $14 an hour in bottom half can live very well.
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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Nothing wrong with that at all. in low COL regions, folks at $14 an hour in bottom half can live very well.
No people cant live very well. Its absurd that in such a rich country as America, the typical wage is so low. And with Trump's massive cuts in health care, specifically targeted at rural America, people will get crushed. How is $20 000 a year in premiums for a 50-year old in Kansas "low cost of living"? You think folks at $14 an hour can afford it?
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