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Old 07-13-2017, 10:24 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I'm no expert, but my sense is that your statement is very half-baked.

First, just because Trump says it doesn't matter doesn't mean it's true.

Second, I've never heard anything about Obama employing the NSA to spy on Romney. Feel free to link to any reputable sources, but I think that's a fantasy.

Third, just because things like wiretapping are legal for SOME people in SOME circumstances doesn't mean it's an option for everyone.


You can be sanctioned if money changes hands, but not words.
There is a reason we can say what ever the hell we wish and we can hear what ever the hell we wish that is offered. As long as I'm not wiretapping to hear it and someone has approached me.


Like I said, Stalin would be proud of these Communists.
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:22 AM
 
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Change Russia to Iran. Still ok to get oppositional info from a foreign government.
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:42 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Default It's called; "Opposition Research or even...Research Into Your Opponent"

there. Trump explains it in a way that we should all be able to understand, while thinking quickly on his feet no less. If you can't accept Junior's rationale that he was conducting Opposition Research, can't you at least get on board with the notion that it was Research Into Your Opponent...even?

sometimes you just have to communicate to the level of your audience is all

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Old 07-14-2017, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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"Opposition research" is the new "locker room talk". I wonder which of his advisers came up with this one.

I hope the whole lot of them are brought down.
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:46 AM
 
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there. Trump explains it in a way that we should all be able to understand, while thinking quickly on his feet no less. If you can't except Junior's rationale that he was conducting Opposition Research, can't you at least get on board with the notion that it was Research Into Your Opponent...even?

sometimes you just have to communicate to the level of your audience is all

Yeah, yeah, we all know about it. But when a foreign adversary contacts YOU about dirt, you go to the FBI. When Joe Blow of Arkansas contacts you to tell you something seedy the Clinton's did, that's another matter.

Then, even if you do go to the meeting and nothing comes of it, you don't later lie about it for months saying that you never had any contact.

Then when the foreign adversary's government has been found to have been hacking and or trying to hack into election software and other things, it looks even worse. You don't HELP an adversary (or heck even a friendly foreign government) in any way. It looks like you're on their side.
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:55 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Yeah, yeah, we all know about it. But when a foreign adversary contacts YOU about dirt, you go to the FBI. When Joe Blow of Arkansas contacts you to tell you something seedy the Clinton's did, that's another matter.

Then, even if you do go to the meeting and nothing comes of it, you don't later lie about it for months saying that you never had any contact.

Then when the foreign adversary's government has been found to have been hacking and or trying to hack into election software and other things, it looks even worse. You don't HELP an adversary (or heck even a friendly foreign government) in any way. It looks like you're on their side.

There isn't one speck of credibility from anyone in the Trump family or the White House, and I would love to see someone throw rotten tomatoes at every single LYING Spokesperson....starting with the worm~ Sean Spicer, Conway, and now Huckabee!
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:56 AM
 
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Yeah, yeah, we all know about it. But when a foreign adversary contacts YOU about dirt, you go to the FBI. When Joe Blow of Arkansas contacts you to tell you something seedy the Clinton's did, that's another matter. .

So, when Clinton did it, it's o.k.?


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The Politico investigation exposed that a Ukrainian-American DNC operative -- Alexandra Chalupa, who worked in the Clinton White House -- met with officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump’s then-top campaign official Paul Manafort and Russia. Manafort later resigned
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Then, even if you do go to the meeting and nothing comes of it, you don't later lie about it for months saying that you never had any contact..

Agreed....

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Then when the foreign adversary's government has been found to have been hacking and or trying to hack into election software and other things, it looks even worse. You don't HELP an adversary (or heck even a friendly foreign government) in any way. It looks like you're on their side.

They tried to hack into election SOFTWARE? Link...or just more blather from the left...


And again, it's o.k. for Hillary to use the Ukraine government to go through Russia to get "something' on trump?


Talk about a double standard....or are you also shaming the Clintons, also?
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Old 07-14-2017, 04:57 AM
 
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If you solicit sex from a 13 year old, you are guilty, it does not matter if you have sex with them or not.
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Old 07-14-2017, 05:00 AM
 
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If you solicit sex from a 13 year old, you are guilty, it does not matter if you have sex with them or not.
And it does not matter if you blabber on about how someone else did it too. You are still guilty.
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Old 07-14-2017, 05:05 AM
 
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If you solicit sex from a 13 year old, you are guilty, it does not matter if you have sex with them or not.

What did jr solicit?


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And it does not matter if you blabber on about how someone else did it too. You are still guilty.


Agreed, but what did jr solicit? And are you admitting that the Clintons did it also?
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