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Lol, so had he voted your way, what would be saying about him then.
What he voted against was lifting the mandate so that people wouldn't get fined if they didn't pay. Not a great idea since cost would again rise to meet that but still, giving people a choice would have been nice. But no, McCain just wants to end OBC without fixing it. So, he voted no.
He didn't vote to KEEP OBC. So, I hope that's not what some on the left are thinking.
Republicans can't take away insurance from millions. Some of these republicans at least have a conscious.
Conscience is correct, not conscious.....and it is only your OPINION that your position occupies the moral high ground.
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Congress has great insurance. Why can't we all have that. I'm sure McCain's cancer treatment cost relatively nothing compared to those who don't have insurance.
McCain is 80 years old. He's also a retired 20+ year career military officer. According to Snopes, members of Congress pay for 28% of their premiums, and the government pays for the other 72%, but they have to pick a gold level plan to get that subsidy.
McCain gets Medicare, and then likely picks Tricare (Military) or the available coverage for members of Congress, likely making the choice based on which best compliments Medicare re overall coverage.
Really? I give him full credit for his service, but he is LONG overdue to get his RINO butt out of the senate and move onto just being a beer distributor.
Democrats and Obama passed Obamacare in 2010 without a Republican vote, they didn't care what the other Party's input so Republicans should return the favor and just repealed it so it forces the democrats to come to the table for a better common sense law for all Americans..
We didn't have a healthcare crisis in 2010. Democrats took a manageable situation and made it really bad.
This is a multi-step process, you can't fix this with 1 big bill of repealed and replace because it will Never get pass. You need to REPEALED IT first then it will give NO choice to the democrats to come to the table and work with Republicans for a better law something Democrats didn't do when they had a solid majority in 2010.
Mccain did it wrong....he should know better......in order to get the democrats to the table he had to vote to repealed it first....this mess is not going to be fix in 1 bill but once Obamacare is repealed we go back to square one in 2009 and start all over again.
We didn't have a healthcare crisis in 2009......now we almost do with the high premiums and higher healthcare cost under Obamacare.
Democrats and Obama passed Obamacare in 2010 without a Republican vote, they didn't care what the other Party's input so Republicans should return the favor and just repealed it so it forces the democrats to come to the table for a better common sense law for all Americans..
We didn't have a healthcare crisis in 2010. Democrats took a manageable situation and made it really bad.
This is a multi-step process, you can't fix this with 1 big bill of repealed and replace because it will Never get pass. You need to REPEALED IT first then it will give NO choice to the democrats to come to the table and work with Republicans for a better law something Democrats didn't do when they had a solid majority in 2010.
Mccain did it wrong....he should know better......in order to get the democrats to the table he had to vote to repealed it first....this mess is not going to be fix in 1 bill but once Obamacare is repealed we go back to square one in 2009 and start all over again.
We didn't have a healthcare crisis in 2009......now we almost do with the high premiums and higher healthcare cost under Obamacare.
While it is true that the ACA was passed without a single Republican vote--there was plenty of input from the Right..judging by the 161 Republican amendments. In fact, the Democrats bent over backwards in an attempt to attain some bipartisanship.
I agree about the futility of trying to solve it all with one big bill. I'm skeptical that if there was repeal there would ever be replace. The GOP has clearly indicated its distaste for healthcare entitlement.
UHC---it's what the people want--not that that really seems to matter to DC.
Conscience is correct, not conscious.....and it is only your OPINION that your position occupies the moral high ground.
McCain is 80 years old. He's also a retired 20+ year career military officer. According to Snopes, members of Congress pay for 28% of their premiums, and the government pays for the other 72%, but they have to pick a gold level plan to get that subsidy.
McCain gets Medicare, and then likely picks Tricare (Military) or the available coverage for members of Congress, likely making the choice based on which best compliments Medicare re overall coverage.
My retired military father had Medicare and Tricare and basically zero out of pocket payments for any medical care, surgical procedure, etc.
I like that idea also however it's becoming more & more like watching a '3 ring circus' to figure what the heck our elected representatives are doing with it:
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In a twist that exemplifies just how wild the healthcare debate has been, on Thursday the Senate voted on a single-payer healthcare plan. Introduced by a Republican. Who doesn't support it. ...
As your article notes, this was not a real attempt at providing health care. It was stupid idiotic politicians trying to play "gotcha" with our lives. How do we actually elect people like this?
It was never meant to pass and it never would have because of that.
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Agreed.
The point I was (albeit perhaps feebly) attempting to illustrate is what, in recent history, IS or was a "real attempt at providing healthcare"?
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I dont know that there ever has been a serious one.
I realize I posed the question specifying "in recent history" ~ allow me to rephrase? Has there ever been, in all of American history, a real attempt to provide healthcare?
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Originally Posted by EvilEyeFleegle
While it is true that the ACA was passed without a single Republican vote--there was plenty of input from the Right..judging by the 161 Republican amendments. In fact, the Democrats bent over backwards in an attempt to attain some bipartisanship.
I agree about the futility of trying to solve it all with one big bill. I'm skeptical that if there was repeal there would ever be replace. The GOP has clearly indicated its distaste for healthcare entitlement.
UHC---it's what the people want--not that that really seems to matter to DC.
Ahh, a pragmatist or realist or ... ?
How about it? Has there ever been, in all of American history, a real attempt to provide healthcare?
While it is true that the ACA was passed without a single Republican vote--there was plenty of input from the Right..judging by the 161 Republican amendments. In fact, the Democrats bent over backwards in an attempt to attain some bipartisanship.
They also made the bill completely transparent and held town hall meetings on the bill, most of which were crashed by screaming and hysterical Republicans.
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Conscience is correct, not conscious.....and it is only your OPINION that your position occupies the moral high ground.
LOL. You mean the husband of a beer distributor.
