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View Poll Results: Should football players and university professors be easy to fire for their views?
Football players and university professors can be fired for their views. 142 43.03%
Neither can be fired for their views 188 56.97%
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Old 10-16-2017, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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yes, since all 870 of those are current players. thank you for revealing your intelligence (or lack thereof)
Since the beginning of 2015 to present day 99 football players out of 1596 have been arrested, charged and convicted of a crime. That is a high percentage in less than 3 years. If these numbers are acceptable to you and everyone else then, you are accepting of drug use, assault, robbery and the degradation of the women who suffer at the hands of these criminals and still support their protests against the National Anthem than you need to reevaluate your values.

How is it that Millions of Americans spend their entire lives making meger livings compared to NFL players can go their entire lives without as so much as a traffic violation but hundreds of NFL players out of such a small community since 2000 have been locked up?

 
Old 10-16-2017, 05:47 PM
 
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Since the beginning of 2015 to present day 99 football players out of 1596 have been arrested, charged and convicted of a crime. That is a high percentage in less than 3 years. If these numbers are acceptable to you and everyone else then, you are accepting of drug use, assault, robbery and the degradation of the women who suffer at the hands of these criminals and still support their protests against the National Anthem than you need to reevaluate your values.

How is it that Millions of Americans spend their entire lives making meger livings compared to NFL players can go their entire lives without as so much as a traffic violation but hundreds of NFL players since 2000 have been locked up?
It could be all 1596 and it won't change the fact that our system is corrupt.
 
Old 10-16-2017, 05:54 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Since the beginning of 2015 to present day 99 football players out of 1596 have been arrested, charged and convicted of a crime. That is a high percentage in less than 3 years. If these numbers are acceptable to you and everyone else then, you are accepting of drug use, assault, robbery and the degradation of the women who suffer at the hands of these criminals and still support their protests against the National Anthem than you need to reevaluate your values.

How is it that Millions of Americans spend their entire lives making meger livings compared to NFL players can go their entire lives without as so much as a traffic violation but hundreds of NFL players out of such a small community since 2000 have been locked up?
And? Why were conservatives supporting the NFL to begin with?


I do agree that is a very valid concern and what cheeses me off about this whole 'kneeling' issue.


Torture dogs for money? That's ok with us.


Beat your wife/fiancé? Whatev.


Drug arrests? No problemo.


Take a knee? ITS OVER YOU OVERPAID NFL PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!
 
Old 10-16-2017, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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It could be all 1596 and it won't change the fact that our system is corrupt.
That depends on which system you are talking about. Are Police as a whole in the entire country corrupt searching out blacks and minorities to kill them in cold blood? NO, that's not true at all. It would be impossible for 1.1. million people to be in on such a conspiracy. If you are stating that a small percentage of law enforcement is corrupt and has it out for minorities yes, that is true. Those people tend to be weeded out at some point and such an issue on such a small scale does not give the players justification to protest the national anthem. They have the right to do so. Just because they have that right doesn't mean it is justified and in this case, it is not.

It also goes back to the plainly stated fact that people do not want to see nor do they care about an athletes political stance or protest when they are just trying to disconnect from their own lives a few hours on a Sunday. The NFL for whatever reason is scared of their players when it's their fans that pay the bills.
 
Old 10-16-2017, 06:00 PM
 
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That depends on which system you are talking about. Are Police as a whole in the entire country corrupt searching out blacks and minorities to kill them in cold blood? NO, that's not true at all. It would be impossible for 1.1. million people to be in on such a conspiracy. If you are stating that a small percentage of law enforcement is corrupt and has it out for minorities yes, that is true. Those people tend to be weeded out at some point and such an issue on such a small scale does not give the players justification to protest the national anthem. They have the right to do so. Just because they have that right doesn't mean it is justified and in this case, it is not.
No, they were NOT weeded out. It's only recently because of the protests that it is starting to happen. We have seen where entire police forces are corrupt. Ferguson, Baltimore, Detroit.

The entire system where a prosecutor that relies on the support of the police to keep his job gets to investigate those he needs to support him is corrupt. This is how it works in the vast majority of places. It has to stop.

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It also goes back to the plainly stated fact that people do not want to see nor do they care about an athletes political stance or protest when they are just trying to disconnect from their own lives a few hours on a Sunday. The NFL for whatever reason is scared of their players when it's their fans that pay the bills.
I do not care about the NFL or their offended fans.
 
Old 10-16-2017, 06:40 PM
 
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Torture dogs for money? That's ok with us.


Beat your wife/fiancé? Whatev.


Drug arrests? No problemo.


Take a knee? ITS OVER YOU OVERPAID NFL PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!
LOL - that's funny because its true.
 
Old 10-16-2017, 06:43 PM
 
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Since the beginning of 2015 to present day 99 football players out of 1596 have been arrested, charged and convicted of a crime. That is a high percentage in less than 3 years. If these numbers are acceptable to you and everyone else then, you are accepting of drug use, assault, robbery and the degradation of the women who suffer at the hands of these criminals and still support their protests against the National Anthem than you need to reevaluate your values.

How is it that Millions of Americans spend their entire lives making meger livings compared to NFL players can go their entire lives without as so much as a traffic violation but hundreds of NFL players out of such a small community since 2000 have been locked up?
you are guilty of the same sensationalism and false dichotomies that liberals are. to recap- Liberals: if you oppose players protesting during the national anthem, then you’re a racist that wants blacks killed. You: if you’re an NFL fan, then you support the beating and rape of women. yeah, okay
 
Old 10-16-2017, 06:52 PM
 
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I present the proof.
There are 1596 players in the NFL.
870 of them have been arrested since the year 2000.

More than half of the players in the NFL have been arrested and charged with criminal activity. Most if not all were convicted. So YES, it is the majority that are criminals. Many players are fine and outstanding, the majority are criminals.

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/arrests/
Do know how many players have come and gone since 2000? Your proof is a joke.


And this has nothing to do with anything. The issue is police brutality. It's not an audit on who does what charities or who has what arrests. This is you pulling out another deflection to get away from the issue of police brutality.
 
Old 10-16-2017, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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And? Why were conservatives supporting the NFL to begin with?


I do agree that is a very valid concern and what cheeses me off about this whole 'kneeling' issue.


Torture dogs for money? That's ok with us.


Beat your wife/fiancé? Whatev.


Drug arrests? No problemo.


Take a knee? ITS OVER YOU OVERPAID NFL PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!
This is just one of the things that annoy me over this, the other is those with bad flag etiquette complaining about the kneeling players.
 
Old 10-16-2017, 06:58 PM
 
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it has EVERYTHING to do with what we’re discussing...the fact is that the vast majority of Americans are opposed to police brutality. it would be like protesting against cancer. no one disagrees with your basic premise. the whole point of a protest is to bring about change. what change is being sought here? the goals of this protest have never been clearly defined. and don’t respond with, “that police stop killing innocent blacks”, because once again, nearly everyone already agrees with you on that
Again, nobody can argue with the players' cause. The issue of police reform for police brutality would help all races. That is why people like you are going off on tangents, and you still didn't really address what I said. People like you are trying to debate the logistics and semantics of protesting, not the actual issue. And if you're asking what change is being sought, you're just acting like you don't know. Police reform. It's literally been on the table for years now. Stop acting like you don't understand that people don't want to be shot over trivial things at traffic stops. Or even worse shot in the back while running away.
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