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Old 10-17-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Why not simply address it?
I agree we need to address it. We should have a massive public service campaign reminding people that they are obligated to comply with police instructions. All instances of police brutality would vanish overnight

 
Old 10-17-2017, 09:24 AM
 
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I agree we need to address it.We should have a massive public service campaign reminding people that they are obligated to comply with police instructions. All instances of police brutality would vanish overnight
They aren't. If it was, Jeff Payne in Salt Lake wouldn't have been fired.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 09:28 AM
 
Location: New York City
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We should have a massive public service campaign reminding people that they are obligated to comply with police instructions.

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They aren't.
Failure to obey a police order
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failur...a_police_order


misdemeanor.


Your problem is you have problems with authority. You want to do whatever the heck you want, everyone else be damned, and don't want any police calling you out on it. If they do, it's "brutality" and "fascism" and this and that
 
Old 10-17-2017, 09:31 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I agree we need to address it. We should have a massive public service campaign reminding people that they are obligated to comply with police instructions. All instances of police brutality would vanish overnight
Comply or die?


What are we - Afghanistan?


Pass.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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Failure to obey a police order
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failur...a_police_order


misdemeanor.


Your problem is you have problems with authority. You want to do whatever the heck you want, everyone else be damned, and don't want any police calling you out on it. If they do, it's "brutality" and "fascism" and this and that
Your hyperbole will never make for a good argument.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 10:33 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Your hyperbole will never make for a good argument.
The thing about this discussion we're having here is the argument solves itself. Eventually everyone gets pulled over for something. I, on one hand, will sit patiently while I get written up and follow orders and be on my way. You, on the other hand, may start giving the cop attitude, be asked to step out of the vehicle, next thing you know you're eating gravel on the side of the road in a headlock and someone needs to wake up to come bail you out.

Then you'll be complaining about police brutality and how unfair the "system" is that's keeping you down, blah blah blah and you hate the United States like comrade Kaepernick. Meanwhile, everyone else who just complied and ate their summons has absolutely no problem and just continue about their daily lives
 
Old 10-17-2017, 10:45 AM
 
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The thing about this discussion we're having here is the argument solves itself. Eventually everyone gets pulled over for something. I, on one hand, will sit patiently while I get written up and follow orders and be on my way. You, on the other hand, may start giving the cop attitude, be asked to step out of the vehicle, next thing you know you're eating gravel on the side of the road in a headlock and someone needs to wake up to come bail you out.
I've never gave an attitude as I've never been asked to do anything other than what an officer is permitted to ask. That is not the case for everyone.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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I've never gave an attitude as I've never been asked to do anything other than what an officer is permitted to ask. That is not the case for everyone.
I assume that most people are brought up to understand that "giving an attitude" to a police officer may be hazardous to your health and safety.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 11:31 AM
 
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I assume that most people are brought up to understand that "giving an attitude" to a police officer may be hazardous to your health and safety.
As noted above, comply, legal or not or get your head beat in.

No thanks.
 
Old 10-17-2017, 11:46 AM
 
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Still waiting for a good answer as to why NFL should should to be associated with patriotism or the flag in any way.

The pledge of allegiance is actually socialistic in nature, as is coercing people to do things that they may not want to do "for the sake of the country" and "respect".

In case you are not aware, the U.S.A. was formed to get away from the socialist nature of Britain, not emulate it. Much of the revolution being based on taxation without representation.

The heavily tax-subsidized nature of the NFL also makes it socialistic in nature. So much hypocrisy.

How, why or should does the NFL represent patriotism and U.S. values in any way?
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