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Old 08-28-2017, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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There is no need to evacuate everyone.

However most at risk should have been gone days ago!

1. Firstly, if I was in charge. I would have gone on air and told all 72,000 who had homes damaged in last event to move everything of value up high and packup and be on high way within 4 hours.

Further they should take neighbors and full cars.

Traffic on all major highways outbound only. Traffic on small highways in bound okay only for emergency vehicles and supplies. No residents allowed back into city on a highway.

2. I would have requested everyone else to sit tight for six hours to allow the first flow out.

3. Second round is only those residents with one story homes that have seen street flooding.

4. Third round is residents with two story homes that have seen street flooding.

Absolutely control number of vehicles getting onto the on ramps.
2' of rain and 2' more to come in many areas. Imagine all cars in the most impacted areas are totaled.

Where would people go? For how long? What becomes of those who have lost everything and have no home/ job to return to?

Those with funds or C/C and a strong desire to get the hello out of the area, just in case. Outbound flights to anywhere/ everywhere iwere overbooked.

Media is reporting hundreds of thousands of homes have been damaged beyond repair. It will take years to rebuild.

How many who have lost everything have no insurance and no savings?

 
Old 08-28-2017, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Yes. And I have never forgiven Obama for his poor handling of the 1911 Galveston hurricane. The man was simply nowhere to be found.
Actually that was a political situation. The Havana Cuban station had reported a possible hurricane but that was ignored since, how could there possibly be reliable information coming out of such a backward nation?
 
Old 08-28-2017, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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<>Where would people go? For how long? What becomes of those who have lost everything and have no home/ job to return to?Media is reporting hundreds of thousands of homes have been damaged beyond repair. It will take years to rebuild.
How many who have lost everything have no insurance and no savings?
My daughter and her husband are trapped and no longer in contact by phone. CBS this morning was talking about a problem with alligators and snake in the flood water coming from ponds all over the area. Reservoir gates have been opened to avoid a catastrophic breach of the dams.
 
Old 08-28-2017, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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^ Outbound expressways turned into parking lots. Hundreds died as they tried to evacuate.

I can appreciate that it's human nature to blame.

There is no practical way to move serious masses of people out of harms way. It's the cost/ risk of living in areas vulnerable to hurricanes/ tropical storms. This one is without precedent.
 
Old 08-28-2017, 06:33 AM
 
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My daughter and her husband are trapped and no longer in contact by phone. CBS this morning was talking about a problem with alligators and snake in the flood water coming from ponds all over the area. Reservoir gates have been opened to avoid a catastrophic breach of the dams.
That was a ridiculous statement. Alligators and snakes are the least of anyone's worries.

The big issues are clean water, food and helping the elderly and infirm get to shelters. There is sewage in the water witch can lead to infections.
 
Old 08-28-2017, 06:36 AM
 
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Yes. And I have never forgiven Obama for his poor handling of the 1911 Galveston hurricane. The man was simply nowhere to be found.
Well, it's not like you've ever held him accountable for anything else.
 
Old 08-28-2017, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Photo not fake:

Nursing Home Residents Seen Sitting In Waist-High Water Before Rescue
An alarming photograph shows several women sitting in the murky water, one of them apparently knitting.

As for why the residents weren’t evacuated before the storm, Kim McIntosh told the New York Daily News that her mother was advised not to because the facility had never flooded before.

Nursing Home Residents Seen Sitting In Waist-High Water Before Rescue | HuffPost
There's a link above about the evacuations associated with RITA, whereby the outbound expressways turned into parking lots for days. Hundreds died on the road. Cars/ buses caught on fire. 24 elderly died in a bus fire after being evacuated from a nursing home.

It's going to take years to recover from this one.
 
Old 08-28-2017, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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https://cdn.meme.am/instances/250x25...-a-problem.jpg

Why does America's 4th. largest city continually flood?

I was watching Jim Cantore from the Weather Channel interview a gentleman tonight who moved to Houston in 1963 and said this is the 4th. time he has been in a major flood since then and said why hasn't the city of Houston prepared for such events.

He also went on to say that infrastructure is lacking including lack of sidewalks and it was embarrassing.

What's wrong with Houston?

How does a flat city with millions of people prepare for 4' + rain?

Texas has one of the highest federal claims rates related to natural disasters. The state could impose an income tax to better prepare. Even then, how does a flat city with millions of people prepare for the unprecidented?
 
Old 08-28-2017, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/27/u...bc-region&_r=0

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/27/u...pan-abc-region

Dallas preps 'mega-shelter' as Texas braces for more rain - CNN

Harvey wallops Texas: Live updates - CNN

Why didn't Houston evacuate? - CNN

Harvey's devastating impact by the numbers - CNN

Nursing home residents wait in water for rescue - CNN

Head of FEMA forecasts painful recovery after Harvey | MSNBC

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.21aad195ab96

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.34a7d8440ac0

And just so you understand, most of the effort in putting this post together was just copy and paste. I didn't have to scroll through the homepage to even find these. They were all just at the top.

And again, the OPs suggestion is frankly idiotic. Local stations would have covered the issue enough, and frankly national sources were still covering it plenty (God forbid they cover more than one thing, apparently), so there's no way people weren't aware that this was coming. If they were, it's on them. The information was easily available. They didn't pick up a newspaper or turn on a TV. Or apparently speak with anyone who had.
And you can't make people leave. I remember yelling at my television "get out, people!" when they were told that Katrina was going to wipe them off them off the map. Yet there they sat, not wanting to leave their "stuff". Not believing the news "hype". Elderly people refused to leave with their children, and died. As someone who evacuated to Tennessee during Cat 1 Isaac, I will never understand.
 
Old 08-28-2017, 06:48 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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I also includes a light. It's quite the gizmo. Has a weefan to make efficient use of the fuel. Saw it at REI.

Using the cell phone as a flashlight is a short-term solution.
I have one, but you have to burn it for quite a long time to get a full charge on your phone.
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