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There's also a need to "stick it" to people beneath you on the socio-economic scale in America that dominates people's thinking.
Many people here in this nation won't support anything from affordable healthcare to heaven only knows what else because then some "poor" somewhere might not starve to death or die of illness, and they just can't have that. There's a sick need in this nation to have somebody beneath you to hate and look down upon, so any policy that elevated everyone will be voted against since there's a chance that "those people" might not suffer as much, and then you'd lose your "well earned" edge over them.
Just look around at all the hatred of the poor that you see on these forums and the delusional belief in the Just World Fallacy, where "everyone gets what they deserve." It's laughably wrong and easily disproven, but it motivates people heavily in America; they don't want to vote for any policy that risks having "lesser people" not suffer because they honestly think "they must have done something to deserve it." Sick.
I see but you use public roads likely educate your children at public schools use police to protect your city. Your point would have merit if you lived in woods and grew all your own food.
Right-wingers always pull that "self-made man" BS. They hate the "evil" government and claim it does nothing for anyone, but have no problem using government infrastructure, depending upon the government-run military for safety, the government-funded police for the same thing, the government run FDA to prevent their food and medicine from being poison, etc. The hypocrisy from them is laughable, and none of them ever have the guts to move to a 3rd world failed stated without an "evil government." No, they'd rather have all of the benefits while whining about having to chip in to pay for them.
Ugh... most right-wingers are like that angry, loud, ignorant "friend" many people have who gladly eats all the food other people pay for at a party, and who whines about ever having to pay his fair share for the food. Mooches.
There's also a need to "stick it" to people beneath you on the socio-economic scale in America that dominates people's thinking.
Many people here in this nation won't support anything from affordable healthcare to heaven only knows what else because then some "poor" somewhere might not starve to death or die of illness, and they just can't have that. There's a sick need in this nation to have somebody beneath you to hate and look down upon, so any policy that elevated everyone will be voted against since there's a chance that "those people" might not suffer as much, and then you'd lose your "well earned" edge over them.
Just look around at all the hatred of the poor that you see on these forums and the delusional belief in the Just World Fallacy, where "everyone gets what they deserve." It's laughably wrong and easily disproven, but it motivates people heavily in America; they don't want to vote for any policy that risks having "lesser people" not suffer because they honestly think "they must have done something to deserve it." Sick.
Yea it basically boils down to elitism. They believe themselves superior to the poor and any tax increase is the dreaded socialism! Ultimately these right wing fools would turn us into a third world country complete with a small elite and a massive underclass.
I see but you use public roads likely educate your children at public schools use police to protect your city. Your point would have merit if you lived in woods and grew all your own food.
Public roads are funded largely through gas taxes. No kids--no way am I bringing a human life to this existence. The police are paid for their service largely through local revenue--and they actually work for their wages. I can't live in the woods, they are all public lands where you go to throw your McDonalds Big Mac wrappers and monster drink cans--or they are owned by rich liberals who would have me jailed were I to try to pick a serviceberry from their land or grow a radish.
Ultimately, there is a huge difference between a free lunch provided by unwilling wage slaves and a legitimate tax that pays for service rendered.
Which policies?
The ACA? It didn't help me and in fact drove my costs up.
I'll vote against a policy if it means it will be paid for by middle class America and no one else.
Ill vote against policies that reward illegals for breaking our laws.
Ill vote against welfare as it stands because of poor oversight and abuses. I'm all for workfare.
Ill vote for a Universal Healthcare, depending on how it will be paid for.
Yea it basically boils down to elitism. They believe themselves superior to the poor and any tax increase is the dreaded socialism! Ultimately these right wing fools would turn us into a third world country complete with a small elite and a massive underclass.
I'll just bet your net worth is at least a hundred times what mine is. Care to send my some money and spread the wealth around a bit?
Where do you draw the line? To someone who makes 15K a year, YOU are the rich guy that needs to be brought down, if we are going by your wage envy philosophies.
So here is a question for you: how much should Average Joe be allowed to make before he becomes an evil rich person? Give me a number... 5K a year? 10K? 20K? 50K? 100K? 500K? Who decides? You?
There's also a need to "stick it" to people beneath you on the socio-economic scale in America that dominates people's thinking.
Many people here in this nation won't support anything from affordable healthcare to heaven only knows what else because then some "poor" somewhere might not starve to death or die of illness, and they just can't have that. There's a sick need in this nation to have somebody beneath you to hate and look down upon, so any policy that elevated everyone will be voted against since there's a chance that "those people" might not suffer as much, and then you'd lose your "well earned" edge over them.
Just look around at all the hatred of the poor that you see on these forums and the delusional belief in the Just World Fallacy, where "everyone gets what they deserve." It's laughably wrong and easily disproven, but it motivates people heavily in America; they don't want to vote for any policy that risks having "lesser people" not suffer because they honestly think "they must have done something to deserve it." Sick.
To the bolded, this is not what I've seen in Houston, Rockport, Port Aransas, and many other cities along the Texas and Louisiana coast in the wake of Hurricane Harvey, Rambler.
Most people are poor for their whole lives because of bad decisions including: not finishing High School, not getting a job, and having kids before they were married. These three criteria are all personal decisions.
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I'll just bet your net worth is at least a hundred times what mine is. Care to send my some money and spread the wealth around a bit?
Where do you draw the line? To someone who makes 15K a year, YOU are the rich guy that needs to be brought down, if we are going by your wage envy philosophies.
So here is a question for you: how much should Average Joe be allowed to make before he becomes an evil rich person? Give me a number... 5K a year? 10K? 20K? 50K? 100K? 500K? Who decides? You?
Most people are poor for their whole lives because of bad decisions including: not finishing High School, then not getting a job, and having kids before they were married. These are all personal decisions and have nothing to do with sticking to anyone.
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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To the bolded, this is not what I've seen in Houston, Rockport, Port Aransas, and many other cities along the Texas and Louisiana coast in the wake of Hurricane Harvey, Rambler.
Most people are poor for their whole lives because of bad decisions including: not finishing High School, then not getting a job, and having kids before they were married. These are all personal decisions and have nothing to do with sticking to anyone.
How about the people who do everything right, but they happen to be a warehouse worker or janitor rather than an investment banker or lawyer? Did they make a bad decision? Answer honestly, no platitudes as they insult everyone's intelligence
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