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Old 09-10-2017, 05:28 PM
 
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Old 09-10-2017, 05:40 PM
 
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Old 09-10-2017, 05:50 PM
 
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What part of equal application of the law do you not understand?

What part of even if applied equally they can't single any group out because of political ideology to begin with?

You tell me what you do not understand about these concepts and I'll be happy to explain them to you.
Of course, it should be applied equally. That's what the whole investigation was about.

What more do think is going happen? Even Trump's DOJ says there are no crimes to pursue here.

Get a new conspiracy theory. This one's a dud.
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Old 09-10-2017, 06:45 PM
 
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Purportedly any group on the list was subject to increased scrutiny. Progressive was also on the list. There is a charge that Tea Party groups were treated much worse but I am not aware of anything that documents such a view. You have a good cite the shows numbers?
Absolutely.... The issue is you are basing your information on what was reported in the lame stream media reporting about the IG's testimony where he was unable to clarify his answers.The follow up letter after his testimony clarifies that which of course got no coverage.

https://online.wsj.com/public/resour...in06262013.pdf

Only 30 percent of groups with the term Progressive were flagged in the same time period this occurred and in those cases it had nothing to do with their political ideology. Whatever they were flagged for was apolitical and would have tripped up anyone.

Furthermore other than the Conservative groups no other groups were targeted.

Not only were they were not equally applying the law it's illegal for them to do this to begin regardless of who it is.
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Old 09-10-2017, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Targeting political groups is fine, targeting Conservative political groups is illegal and that is what they did.

What part do you not understand about this?
Were they being targeted because they were political or were they being targeted because they were conservative? Its the IRS role to investigate political groups attempting to claim tax exempt status.
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Old 09-10-2017, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Absolutely.... The issue is you are basing your information on what was reported in the lame stream media reporting about the IG's testimony where he was unable to clarify his answers.The follow up letter after his testimony clarifies that which of course got no coverage.

https://online.wsj.com/public/resour...in06262013.pdf

Only 30 percent of groups with the term Progressive were flagged in the same time period this occurred and in those cases it had nothing to do with their political ideology. Whatever they were flagged for was apolitical and would have tripped up anyone.
More conservatives were targeted by the search tool, it's not politics.
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Old 09-10-2017, 06:53 PM
 
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They used a poorly devised search tool to single out political groups,
That poorly devised search tool as you put it only targeted Conservative groups, the tea party made up the bulk of them bu there were others. This is illegal.
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Old 09-10-2017, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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That poorly devised search tool as you put it only targeted Conservative groups, the tea party made up the bulk of them bu there were others. This is illegal.
Except of course that statement is false. Progressive groups were targeted as well. The criteria was political activism by a group claiming a charitable immunity.
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Old 09-10-2017, 07:00 PM
 
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Were they being targeted because they were political or were they being targeted because they were conservative?
There was numerous groups targeted by the IRS in the same time span with different political ideologies, only Conservative group were targeted because of their specific political ideology. Even if they had applied the law equally to every political ideology it is still illegal for them to do that.
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Old 09-10-2017, 07:02 PM
 
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More conservatives were targeted by the search tool, it's not politics.
The IG that conducted the investigation disagrees with your assertion. Read the letter this time.

And it's not "more", it's 100 percent of them at least as far as the Tea Pary groups were concerned.
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