Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay (arsenal, lawyers, weapons)
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I'm sure hotel trying to cover themselves as much as possible .
Another thing I was thinking what if they had actually comped him that room
Seems possible since he was a big gambler
So?
Casino hotels routinely comp high rollers. Some provide escorts, too.
Until 10/1, no comped guest had ever opened fire on a crowd of people below.
Was the hotel negligent? I don't know.
Shooter booked the room 3 days before he stayed in the room. Maybe the shooter used this time to transport trunks/ luggage, a piece at a time.
It's better to view this property as a city instead of a hotel.
Hotel adjoins a convention center. There are three hotels on this property, a mall, casinos, dozens of restaurants and bars. The Mandalay has 3000+ guest suites. Thousands of people flow in and out of the public spaces of this and other large strip hotels, every day.
Exactly, and probably a big reason you see no surveillance video of Paddock bringing 10 suitcases up..because it would raise the question in a civil trial why no one asked why he was one guy in a suite bringing up 10 suitcases. I've heard of travelling heavy but that's a bit crazy.
Mandalay has the big pockets here and you've got about 500 people and their families who will be looking for millions.
I don't find the 10 suitcase thing extraordinary at all. In my last job I attended numerous trade shows. If the host hotel wasn't open when I arrived I had to take tons of stuff to my hotel room until the room opened to vendors. I carried large displays, boxes of product and samples, brochures, projector, screen etc. up to my room, no one ever questioned it, why would they?
Could the Mandalay Bay have wanted to cover up the fact that Paddock shot one of their security guards because of his status as a high roller? Maybe security was unsure whether to call the police about an incident involving a customer of his status? No matter how incompetent and indecisive they were, they cannot have thought it wise to leave their officer bleeding in the hallway, though. Maybe the police were contacted and bungled the call and don’t want to admit it?
Could the Mandalay Bay have wanted to cover up the fact that Paddock shot one of their security guards because of his status as a high roller? Maybe security was unsure whether to call the police about an incident involving a customer of his status? No matter how incompetent and indecisive they were, they cannot have thought it wise to leave their officer bleeding in the hallway, though. Maybe the police were contacted and bungled the call and don’t want to admit it?
This mass shooting is unique in that we have our first multi-millionaire shooter who carried out his agenda inside an obscenely wealthy iconic business.
Not that we ever get the whole truth or even the bulk of the truth with these events but I'd guess with all the money on the table here...bet on hijinx all over the place.
LOL what!? The security guard was shot BEFORE the shooting of the crowd. Now that is huge game changer.
Any official statement or theories why the security guard was there in the first place? Obviously now we know the security guard wasn't there in response to the sound of gun fire.
Guard was dispatched in response to an alarm for an open door in the floor. It was not the shooter's door. Some media had previously reported the guard was dispatched to investigate smoke. Imagine it's quite a challenge for the investigation to separate fact from hearsay.
Initiallly, it was unclear if the gunfire was coming from the Mandalay of Luxor hotel. LE then determined it was coming from a floor between 29-32 in the Mandalay.
The stairway door on 32 had been screwed shut and had to be pried open. That's the first time LE encountered the unarmed guard who had been shot in the leg. The shooting had ceased before the arrival of LE on the floor.
LE thought there were multiple shooters and that the room's door had been booby- trapped given wires were visible. They cleared the floor of all guests before breaching the room.
Timelines and finding are subject to change as more factual information becomes known.
Some online sources reported the security guard , by name, was an accomplice. Only a few bothered to update the story.
I find the new angle in regards to the security guard a little interesting as well. How would he have known to go to that exact door in a building with 3,500 rooms, if the shooting hadn't even started yet? I haven't been following the story much for a couple of days but that seems really odd to me. Did Paddock breaking the windows set something off.
I don't see why people keep talking smack on the brother how would you feel if CNN was on your porch 12 hours after your brother just went on a mass murder spree? He was probably in a total state of shock and needed a Valium himself.
Guard was responding to an alarm for an open door on the floor. The door was not the shooter's door. Many hotels have similar alarms. The wounded guard had no contact with LE until LE breached a screwed down stairwell door on 32. By that time, the shooting had ceased.
i thought the brother held it together reasonably well, all things considered. There were and maybe still are hundreds of media surrounding his home waiting to record some juicy detail. Can't imagine what it must be like for the families of mass shooters.
I wonder if he called security to have them come up and then when security arrived he shot the guy and then started shooting the festival. I don't think the guard was in on the plan.
Nope. Unarmed guard was responding to an alarm for an ajar door, elsewhere on the floor. Such alarms are rather common in large modern hotels. It's for the safety of guests.
Guard was responding to an alarm for an open door on the floor. The door was not the shooter's door. Many hotels have similar alarms. The wounded guard had no contact with LE until LE breached a screwed down stairwell door on 32. By that time, the shooting had ceased.
i thought the brother held it together reasonably well, all things considered. There were and maybe still are hundreds of media surrounding his home waiting to record some juicy detail. Can't imagine what it must be like for the families of mass shooters.
What about the families of the victims of mass shooters?
This change in the timeline means serious consequences for the Mandalay Bay. They, or their "agent", were aware of the shooter 6 minutes before anyone was killed. What was their response? Could a swifter response by the hotel prevented the shooting or limited the damage ? Right now there are personal injury lawyers all over the country licking their chops. I expect lawsuits to be filed against the Mandalay Bay very soon.
Was the guard in a position to alert anyone he had been shot?
Was he wearing/ carrying a communication devise? Did it remain intact/ functional?
Apparently the guard was headed to a nearby room when shot in the leg. He then stayed in the hallway until police arrived around a halfhour later.
Seems like the security guard should have some info, considering he was shot before 10pm. Being the first shot, it would be interesting to hear what prompted that as well as why and when the shooter pumped a couple hundred rounds into the hallway.
So, he shot the guard(through the door?), starting shooting outside a couple minutes later, then he stopped firing at 10:15 for unknown reasons, and police entered and found his body at 11:20-11:30.
Shooter had screwed the star wall door shut. LE had to breach it to gain access to the floor. The shooting had already ceased by this point. They encountered the unarmed shot guard. They observed wires between the suite and room service cart and assumed booby trap.
They evacuated the entire floor before breaching the shooter's suite. They expected multiple shooters. Instead it was one dead guy.
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