Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay (interviews, illegal, weapons)
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Originally Posted by No_Recess I find it odd that the security guard, Campos, saw what is now the incorrect narrative play out for about a week in regards to when he was shot and didn't speak up.
Quote:Well, if you were the one on the line would not you as the story did change from the first official one.
So, he went to sleep on the job, then woke up to what he heard, then gets shot only one single time.
People do think the hotel was set up as well for a big pay out in order to take away all the distraction.
Did this happen, yes or no.
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Originally Posted by Timmyy
Your posts are mindless.
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And you're filled with such blatant selfishness.
It was about the insane pocketbook as always.
It is all too bad it went right there practicality.
Because there are others whose will be paying.
Witnesses have said there were more in action.
Meaning more shooters were there inside acts.
My original post stands; never answered it ink.
Signed today's Templar Day called Friday 13th.
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Originally Posted by No_Recess I find it odd that the security guard, Campos, saw what is now the incorrect narrative play out for about a week in regards to when he was shot and didn't speak up.
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom No doubt, the guard was initially a person of interest.
Maybe he was not in a position to report the situation. Maybe he had not been dispatched to the floor and was napping in an unoccupied guest room.
Maybe he did report it and no one called it in. The engineer who entered 32 certainly had no idea what he was walking into. We know he communicated the situation.
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Maybe the guard disputed the timeline or maybe it was in his best interests to go with the flow.
MGM is casting doubt on the revised timeline.
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Well, if you were the one on the line would not you as the story did change from the first official one.
So, he went to sleep on the job, then woke up to what he heard, then gets shot only one single time.
People do think the hotel was set up as well for a big pay out in order to take away all the distraction.
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The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives now believes Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock likely had help planning and executing the deadliest mass shooting in US history from none other than the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino security guard who was shot in the leg that night, a senior ATF official told GotNews.
Jesus Campos has been praised for his apparent heroics on October 1st, as he supposedly rushed to Paddock’s suite, was shot in the upper thigh through the door, and continued to help get people to safety despite his wounds. However, a new report indicates the ATF now believes he was likely an accomplice of Paddock’s, and may have even been involved in the initial shooting as a second gunman from the other broken window in Paddock’s 32nd-floor room.
According to an ATF official, these suspicions are corroborated by the extreme amount of gunpowder residue found on Campos’ hands. “They believe he killed Paddock, shot holes through the door and his own arm to produce physical evidence for his cover story, then went and lay next to the elevator,” a senior ATF official doing ballistic work for the shooting told GotNews.
It has been recently stated by Las Vegas police that the "note" found near Paddock's body was scribbled with calculations for bullet drop from his position. These calculations can be done with newer laser rangefinders, but Stephen apparently chose to do them on paper.
From a target shooters point of view (one of my hobbies), when I heard this scribbling on paper it really had me confused. No one scribbles on paper things like this. Well you can, you calculate bullet drop but you still need a fixed point of reference via the optics and use the reticles to adjust, otherwise any calculations he did on paper would be sort of a waste. First of all you have to "zero" the rifle to a fixed distance - either with the optics he was using (I saw one magnified scope and another with an expensive holographic site) or with the iron sights - and that takes an outdoor firing range. Strangely I don't recall them saying he was a member of a local firing range, I guess theoretically he could have gone out in the desert in the middle of nowhere and done this, set up a stand and paper at a measured distance...but you also need a spotting scope and a spotter and would have to do this with each rifle.
Of course with simulated auto fire the muzzle is going to jump like crazy making any precise targeting useless anyways. Also the bullet drop at 400 yards isn't that huge when considering the huge field and huge mass of targets - 3 or 4 feet? My question wouldn't have been his manual calculations on bullet drop, which would just a sign of his strange maniacal overpreperation and insignificant, but how did he zero in his rifles?
Originally Posted by Orion Rules;49810706
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From a target shooters point of view (one of my hobbies), when I heard this scribbling on paper it really had me confused. No one scribbles on paper things like this. Well you can, you calculate bullet drop but you still need a fixed point of reference via the optics and use the reticles to adjust, otherwise any calculations he did on paper would be sort of a waste. First of all you have to "zero" the rifle to a fixed distance - either with the optics he was using (I saw one magnified scope and another with an expensive holographic site) or with the iron sights - and that takes an outdoor firing range. Strangely I don't recall them saying he was a member of a local firing range, I guess theoretically he could have gone out in the desert in the middle of nowhere and done this, set up a stand and paper at a measured distance...but you also need a spotting scope and a spotter and would have to do this with each rifle.
Of course with simulated auto fire the muzzle is going to jump like crazy making any precise targeting useless anyways. Also the bullet drop at 400 yards isn't that huge when considering the huge field and huge mass of targets - 3 or 4 feet? My question wouldn't have been his manual calculations on bullet drop, which would just a sign of his strange maniacal overpreperation and insignificant, but how did he zero in his rifles?
.308 win 150 gr bullet 2800 and change fps out of an 18 in barrel will drop 30 inches at 400 yards. That round is about as bread and butter on ballistics as can get since it was developed. I sometimes write down objects I've ranged for reference to distance but nothing else.
It's a cover up, not an investigation. With all the security in casinos they can't even show a picture of paddock carrying in weapons, or even anything suspicious.
From a target shooters point of view (one of my hobbies), when I heard this scribbling on paper it really had me confused. No one scribbles on paper things like this. Well you can, you calculate bullet drop but you still need a fixed point of reference via the optics and use the reticles to adjust, otherwise any calculations he did on paper would be sort of a waste. First of all you have to "zero" the rifle to a fixed distance - either with the optics he was using (I saw one magnified scope and another with an expensive holographic site) or with the iron sights - and that takes an outdoor firing range. Strangely I don't recall them saying he was a member of a local firing range, I guess theoretically he could have gone out in the desert in the middle of nowhere and done this, set up a stand and paper at a measured distance...but you also need a spotting scope and a spotter and would have to do this with each rifle.
Of course with simulated auto fire the muzzle is going to jump like crazy making any precise targeting useless anyways. Also the bullet drop at 400 yards isn't that huge when considering the huge field and huge mass of targets - 3 or 4 feet? My question wouldn't have been his manual calculations on bullet drop, which would just a sign of his strange maniacal overpreperation and insignificant, but how did he zero in his rifles?
Maybe we are just looking at it too logically and as sane people. There is so much of it that doesn't make sense, why would he have a holographic sight on one rifle when shooting that type of range, for instance ?
There is more than what has been reported. they want to sweep it under the rug.
I don't believe this guy was just a random nutbag.
There is way more than what has been reported.
Really? Did you go to the site linked that tracks owner history of an aircraft? If so you might have seen this:
30-Aug-2013 VOLANT LLC ROANOKE VA
10-Dec-2010 ROGERS JOHN W ROANOKE VA
13-Feb-2010 USH INC LOS ANGELES CA
25-May-2007 PADDOCK STEPHEN C MESQUITE TX
02-Jun-2006 PADDOCK STEPHEN C HENDERSON NV
The plane was last registered to Paddock in 2007, in 2010 it was transferred to USH, INC, a private Los Angeles firm 'Universal Student Housing'. In the same year it was transferred to John Rogers in Roanoake VA who three years later registered it in the name of his company. And miss me with the Obama administration defense contractor, he was awarded a contract in February 2017 by the Trump administration.
So, let's analyze this. Three years after Paddock quit registering the plane it was purchased by a private firm and then later transferred to John W Rogers. But we don't know if this is the John W. Rogers who owns Volant LLC, or Dr. John W. Rogers who also lives in and works in Roanoake, do we? Here's a database for you to see for yourself, contracts listed as Volant Associates and Volant LLC were both awarded contracts under three Presidencies; Trump, Obama, and Bush. And complicating the issue further is that Volant Associates and Volant LLC seem to be two separate companies.
Sorry but that dog don't hunt
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