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Old 10-14-2017, 08:09 AM
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Location: Tennessee
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The authorities are incompetent.
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Old 10-14-2017, 08:10 AM
 
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And now the hotel security guard ups and runs away moments before several high profile interviews. To say that that was a stupid thing to do is a given, he'd have the press eating out of his hand and was guaranteed to get preferential treatment with his hero status, even if there were discrepancies now in when the police were notified and when they responded. Unless, of course, somebody got to him and warned him about saying the wrong thing or saying something he saw that he wasn't supposed to see. The FBI has a history of not seeking out eye witnesses and listening to their first hand accounts if it doesn't fit their official narrative.
Another conspiracy theory!!
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Old 10-14-2017, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Another conspiracy theory!!
say, isn't Mandalay some kinda Muslimy kind of word
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Old 10-14-2017, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Her story saids strange. She said the further she ran, the louder the gun fire got. That’s makes sense if she was running toward the hotel. Also, she didn’t “IDENTIFY†multiple shooters. She never saw them. She most likely heard echoes and bullets ricocheting.
Woman had Epilepcy and was prone to seizures. She recently had 3 frontal seizures. Her grandmother reportedly said the stress of the shooting and running for her life, took her life.

I imagine thousands who attended the concert have PTSD. Some likely have a perception they were being chased by gunmen. It's very common for eyewitnesses to have different perceptions of events.

If there were gunmen shooting from within the crowd as well as from the Mandalay, the carnage would have been much greater than it was.
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Old 10-14-2017, 08:42 AM
 
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And now the hotel security guard ups and runs away moments before several high profile interviews. To say that that was a stupid thing to do is a given, he'd have the press eating out of his hand and was guaranteed to get preferential treatment with his hero status, even if there were discrepancies now in when the police were notified and when they responded. Unless, of course, somebody got to him and warned him about saying the wrong thing or saying something he saw that he wasn't supposed to see. The FBI has a history of not seeking out eye witnesses and listening to their first hand accounts if it doesn't fit their official narrative.
He had an "accident"
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Old 10-14-2017, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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And now the hotel security guard ups and runs away moments before several high profile interviews. To say that that was a stupid thing to do is a given, he'd have the press eating out of his hand and was guaranteed to get preferential treatment with his hero status, even if there were discrepancies now in when the police were notified and when they responded. Unless, of course, somebody got to him and warned him about saying the wrong thing or saying something he saw that he wasn't supposed to see. The FBI has a history of not seeking out eye witnesses and listening to their first hand accounts if it doesn't fit their official narrative.
There are some reports Campos may be or is an illegal immigrant. I have no idea.

The security guards at Mandalay were recently organized. The union president has been promoting his heroism as if the union had somethibg to do with Campos actions. The union president arranged for the interviews. According to him, Campos just disappeared.

The timeline has changed 3X as it relates to the relationship between the internal and external shooting. Every minute matters in terms of establishing liability.
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:02 AM
 
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Not likely an illegal would make it past the vetting process for a union security job. Not saying it's impossible with the right fake documents but even if he was it's a pretty flimsy theory as to why he'd put a sock in it without coercion IMO.
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The authorities are incompetent.
Yeah. I know. They did not wrap things up within the hour, like happens on TV shows.

FBI and local LE have been reaching out to attendees and others. They immediately established a hot line and recieved thousands of calls and have to check everyone of them out. How many crack pots from all over the US/ world have called to communicate their theories?

20,000+ attended the festival. Many people drank/ smoked and partied prior to the event. Alcohol was sold at the event. I would not be surprised if there were 20,000+ variations of perceptions.

FBI investigating, seeking information on victims of Las Vegas shooting | WJLA


As for the alleged woman who was screaming into the crowd " you're all going to die"...if one has not encountered someone on the strip, screaming similar warnings or predictions of the end of the world, they probably did not get out much. There seems to be a higher consentration of street crazies people under the influence, on the strip than most other places in the US , where there are masses of humanity.

1,000 people +/- continue to live in the tunnels below the strip. Drug addicts, alcoholics, people with mental health issues and other causes of destitution roam the strip

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Old 10-14-2017, 09:19 AM
 
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The facts of this case should have been pretty simple to ascertain within a few days following the event if nobody was lying or covering anything up and the event really took place the way the say it supposedly did. Based on what has ensued in the last two weeks we can assume there is more than just incompetence going on here.

My personal theory is that he was working with the FBI on a sting or gun running operation and something went wrong, which obviously would be explosive if that came out, so they can't let it. This guy was too rich and too smart to be what he appeared to be on the surface. I'd bet money on it. ISIS claiming involvement also many not be as crazy as it sounded at first either.
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Old 10-14-2017, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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The facts of this case should have been pretty simple to ascertain within a few days following the event if nobody was lying or covering anything up and the event really took place the way the say it supposedly did. Based on what has ensued in the last two weeks we can assume there is more than just incompetence going on here.

My personal theory is that he was working with the FBI on a sting or gun running operation and something went wrong, which obviously would be explosive if that came out, so they can't let it. This guy was too rich and too smart to be what he appeared to be on the surface. I'd bet money on it. ISIS claiming involvement also many not be as crazy as it sounded at first either.
all likely true and don't discount Las Vegas' close proximity to Area 51 where they got them aliens from space locked up neither
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