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Old 10-04-2017, 06:57 PM
 
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Hey they want psych evaluations. I want unrestricted access... fair compromise...
Right up until they decide wanting to own a gun is a mental illness. You dont compromise with these people.
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:09 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Right up until they decide wanting to own a gun is a mental illness. You dont compromise with these people.
Kicker. I don't affiliate with anyone anti gun. One guy I shoot with is a shrink. We don't discuss work outside of what our occupations are, we just discuss what builds we've got going on.

I'd just see him for an analysis
Win.

Psychologist loophole would be the next complaint...
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...cs-maps-charts

some interesting stats and graphs regarding gun violence in America vs other places.

IMO we need stricter gun laws. What we have right now isn't working and the amount of gun deaths is staggering.
It's too late for that. There are way too many guns in this country already. Stricter gun laws won't change anything. Criminals will be criminals. For better or worse, America loves its' guns. They aren't going anywhere.
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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But one method WILL work.

Don't pussyfoot around. Ban all private ownership of guns, period. And enforce it. This will dry up the supply until even the worst criminals can't get a gun any more.

Can anyone see a way this would NOT work in reducing shootings in this country?
Way back in my army days, we were given the following manual.

You can see from what I am posting that killing ... even mass murder is always going to be 'doable' if you know what to do!

(I could build an automatic and the ammo to go with it ... given the right material, which is pretty easy to get.)







That is basically what the manual is about.

Table of Contents

Section 0 — Introduction

0.1 Purpose and Scope
0.2 Safety and Reliability
0.3 User Comments

Section 1 — Explosives and Propellants (including igniters)

1.1 Plastic Explosive Filler
1.2 Potassium Nitrate
1.3 Improvised Black Powder
1.4 Nitric Acid
1.5 Initiator for Dust Explosions
1.6 Fertilizer Explosive
1.7 Carbon Tet – Explosive
1.8 Fertilizer AN-Al Explosive
1.9 “Red or White Powder” Propellant
1.10 Nitric Acid/Nitrobenzene (“Hellhoffite”) Explosive
1.11 Optimized Process for Cellulose/Acid Explosives
1.12 Methyl Nitrate Dynamite
1.13 Urea Nitrate Explosive
1.14 Preparation of Copper Sulfate (Pentahydrate)
1.15 Reclamation of RDX from C4
1.16 TACC (Tetramminecopper (II) Chlorate)
1.17 HMTD
1.18 Potassium or Sodium Nitrite and Litharge (Lead Monoxide)
1.19 DDNP
1.20 Preparation of Lead Picrate
1.21 Preparation of Picric Acid from Aspirin
1.22 Double Salts
1.23 Sodium Chlorate
1.24 Mercury Fulminate
1.25 Sodium Chlorate and Sugar or Aluminum Explosive

Section 2 — Mines and Grenades

2.1 Pipe Hand Grenade
2.2 Nail Grenade
2.3 Wine Bottle Cone Charge
2.4 Grenade-Tin Can Land Mine
2.5 Mortar Scrap Mine
2.6 Coke Bottle Shaped Charge
2.7 Cylindrical Cavity Shaped Charge
2.8 Not Available
2.9 Funnel Shaped Charge
2.10 Linear Shaped Charge

Section 3 — Small Arms Weapons and Ammunition

3.1 Pipe Pistol for 9 mm Ammunition
3.2 Shotgun (12 gauge)
3.3 Shotshell Dispersion Control
3.4 Carbine (7.62 mm Standard Rifle Ammunition)
3.5 Reusable Primer
3.6 Pipe Pistol for .45 Caliber Ammunition
3.7 Match Gun
3.8 Rifle Cartridge
3.9 Pipe Pistol for .38 Caliber Ammunition
3.10 Pipe Pistol for .22 Caliber Ammunition — Long or Short Cartridge
3.11 Low Signature System

Section 4 — Mortars and Rockets

4.1 Recoilless Launcher
4.2 Shotgun Grenade Launcher
4.3 Grenade Launcher (57 mm Cardboard Container)
4.4 Fire Bottle Launcher
4.5 Grenade Launchers
4.6 60 mm Mortar Projectile Launcher

Section 5 — Incendiary Devices

5.1 Chemical Fire Bottle
5.2 Igniter from Book Matches
5.3 Mechanically Initiated Fire Bottle
5.4 Gelled Flame Fuels

5.4.1 Lye Systems
5.4.2 Lye-Alcohol Systems
5.4.3 Soap-Alcohol System
5.4.4 Egg White Systems
5.4.5 Latex Systems
5.4.6 Wax Systems
5.4.7 Animal Blood Systems

5.5 Acid Delay Incendiary
5.6 Improvised White Flare
5.7 Improvised Iron Oxide
5.8 Improvised Yellow Flare
5.9 Improvised White Smoke Munition
5.10 Improvised Black Smoke Munition

Section 6 — Fuses, Detonators & Delay Mechanisms

6.1 Electric Bulb Initiator
6.2 Fuse Igniter from Book Matches
6.3 Delay Igniter from Cigarette
6.4 Watch Delay Timer
6.5 No-Flash Fuse Igniter
6.6 Dried Seed Timer
6.7 Fuse Cords

6.7.1 Fast Burning Fuse
6.7.2 Slow Burning Fuse

6.8 Clothespin Time Delay Switch
6.9 Time Delay Grenade
6.10 Can-Liquid Time Delay
6.11 Short Term Time Delay for Grenade
6.12 Long Term Time Delay for Grenade
6.13 Detonator

Section 7 — Miscellaneous

7.1 Clothespin Switch
7.2 Mousetrap Switch
7.3 Flexible Plate Switch
7.4 Metal Ball Switch
7.5 Altimeter Switch
7.6 Pull-Loop Switch
7.7 Knife Switch
7.8 Improvised Scale
7.9 Rope Grenade Launching Technique
7.10 Bicycle Generator Power Source
7.11 Automobile Generator Power Source
7.12 Improvised Battery (Short Lasting)
7.13 Improvised Battery (2 Hour Duration)
7.14 Armor Materials

Appendix 1 — Primary High Explosives

A1.1 Mercury Fulminate
A1.2 Lead Styphnate
A1.3 Lead Azide
A1.4 DDNP

Appendix 2 — Secondary High Explosives

A2.1 TNT
A2.2 Nitrostarch
A2.3 Tetryl
A2.4 RDX
A2.5 Nitroglycerin
A2.6 Commercial Dynamite
A2.7 Military Dynamite
A2.8 Amatol
A2.9 PETN
A2.10 Blasting Gelatin
A2.11 Composition B
A2.12 Composition C4
A2.13 Ammonium Nitrate

Colophon

C.1 Version History

C.1.1 Version 1.0 (1969)
C.1.2 Version 2.0 (1970s)
C.1.3 Version 3.0 (2007 – Thanks-to-Feinstein's Electronic Edition)

C.2 Copyright Information




Frankford Arsenal
Philadelphia Pennsylvania

For Official Use Only

For further information or additional inserts, contact:

Commanding Officer
Frankford Arsenal
ATTN: SMUF A-U3100, Special Products Division
Small Caliber Engineering Directorate
Philadelphia, Pa. 19137

Additional inserts will be made available as evaluation tests are completed. Please notify the above agency of any change of address so that you may receive them.
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:31 PM
 
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Anyone heard of a lathe and milling machine?
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:37 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Anyone heard of a lathe and milling machine?
Or the 3D printer nowadays...
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:21 PM
 
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Actually a better description would be "self-sufficient". As in "I don't expect my government to support me, protect me, or to make all of my decisions for me".
No.

Self-interest and selfishness are very good descriptors of the behavior.
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:25 PM
 
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Actually it pretty much is. There are perversions and disturbances introduced by government involvement, but those who produce generally do well, and those who sit around generally do poorly. Which is as it should be. If we want more of the goodness, we should reduce government, reduce taxes, reduce social programs, emphasize individual rights, and enhance private property rights. That releases the creativity of the best and brightest and the good things happen faster and with greater amplitude.
Sure they do buddy.

Sure they do.

:: pat on the head ::

Sweet dreams.
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:27 PM
 
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Hey they want psych evaluations. I want unrestricted access... fair compromise...
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Right up until they decide wanting to own a gun is a mental illness. You dont compromise with these people.
sorry, frank is right on this. and while you might not hang around anti gun types, the government might send you to someone that is anti gun, and they would send in a report that fits their agenda, and you could end up not only not getting the guns you want, but losing the ones you have, as well as losing your freedom. you may end up in court trying to stay out of a mental institution.

sorry, i wont compromise my rights with anyone that wants to take them away.
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:41 PM
 
Location: PSL
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sorry, frank is right on this. and while you might not hang around anti gun types, the government might send you to someone that is anti gun, and they would send in a report that fits their agenda, and you could end up not only not getting the guns you want, but losing the ones you have, as well as losing your freedom. you may end up in court trying to stay out of a mental institution.

sorry, i wont compromise my rights with anyone that wants to take them away.
True.

Notice they still aren't commenting on it?
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