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Old 10-05-2017, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by Natnasci View Post
Gun free zones don't mean a thing when you can carry a gun without checks into that zone. A federal law is needed so that the laws are exactly the same state to state.
You as a foreigner have no business determining what our federal laws should be. Again why can't you just mind your own business and stick to the problems within your own damn country.

You're like the guest that gets invited over to someone's home for dinner and then complains about the food and then suggests that the homeowner change the color of their house all the rooms in it and demand that they buy different furniture. The United States of America is not your house. GET OVER IT!

We are not Canada and do not need your laws or system of government in this country. We are a Constitutional Republic, not a parliamentary democracy and a constitutional monarchy such as you are.

You like your system of government, fine. How would you like it if we started demanding that you change it to suit ours?
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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RE: "Facts"

The process for buying a semi-automatic rifle in Canada is far more restrictive
Facts, the Las Vegas shooter was a perfectly clean person....again....facts are facts, fantasies are....fantasies....
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:45 PM
 
Location: London
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Ridiculous on it's face. How would you apply that to the fact that we kill millions of babies via abortion every year?

The problem is a lack of morality. People such as yourself mock those of us who believe in something higher than ourselves (God). That is the problem. You fail to acknowledge the author of life.
I believe in G-d, but that's not what my morality is based on. It shouldn't take the threat of having a hot poker up your ass for eternity or bribery to get you to *not* kick puppies and babies.

If it did, I'd hesitate to call that morality at all.

Morality and religion can coexist, but neither is necessary for the other.
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:46 PM
 
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You must be under the misconception that these two groups necessarily overlap.
And you know for a fact they don't??


You should learn a bit more about the Sandy Hook shooter and the painstaking planning he did.....


If you think that the majority of these whackos are idiots you are highly mistaken....I would say that "obsession about doing something" describe them very well in the vast majority of cases....
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:47 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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So if no laws will prevent these things why do conservatives want to ban muslims in an attempt to prevent terrorism?
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ban muslims in an attempt to prevent terrorism?
that's their narrative but not their reason ... prevent influence to change laws imo makes more sense.
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:47 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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I'm not worried about the 0.0000001% of the population capable of designing and illegally manufacturing an automatic weapon from scratch in their garage.

I'm talking about the 0.000001% of the population who is willing to go mass murder people with a gun they purchased.

You must be under the misconception that these two groups necessarily overlap.

And you think your law is going to stop a criminal from getting automatic weapons? LOL!! How naĂŻve can you get?
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:50 PM
 
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Guns are absolutely the problem.
Incorrect, but you know that.

Needless to say guns don't kill people, as they are only a tool, thus the person shooting at other human beings kill people. Cars don't kill people either, the people behind the wheel does. The same can be said of knives, baseball bats, poison, etc., etc., etc.

Most importantly, our Founding Fathers were smart enough to enshrine a means for our citizens to protect the one governing document we all follow. Unlike other countries who have allowed themselves to be disarmed by a reactionary government, we the people of this great constitutional republic cannot have our rights stripped away by the people who represent us.


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Old 10-05-2017, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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In spite of the terrorist attacks France averages 600 some homicides a year, from a nation of 65 million people. The state of Georgia averages same number of murders as France but only has a population of 10 million people. In Georgia guns are the weapon of choice, 85 to 90% of all homicides are committed with firearms. In France where guns are very restricted 30% of all murder are committed with a firearm. See the patterns begin to emerge. More guns = more murder
Ken, I see you're from California one of thee most anti gun states in the nation. Just pass a law outlawing the possession of all firearms and ammunition within your state. You're moving in that direction anyway. It's just a matter of time as each new law is passed and the roster of prohibited weapons grows. Why not just get it over with? The hell with the 2nd Amendment. You can do it, your party controls the state government. Then you can demand that the laws be enforced. Declare martial law and send the police and national guard units to search every single home, apartment and dwelling within your state, barge down the doors, turn the places upside down and confiscate every weapon and bullet they can find and throw the occupants in jail. This will include all of your Hollywood hypocrites, all politicians along with their armed security details. No one will be exempt from the searches including yourself.

That's about the only way you're gonna' get rid of civilian owned guns. But you'll need GUNS to do it. I guess guns will be okay for that purpose as long as those that believe as you do are the only ones that have them? Ironic that those of your party can call others fascists.

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Old 10-05-2017, 12:52 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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I agree with the open borders. Nobody is talking about that. Even if all guns were illegal what good would that do with thousands of those guns being smuggled over the border and sold on the black market?
Same with drugs. They are illegal. They are everywhere. Killing our kids. Is it the kids fault or the illegal drugs fault? or the fault of those people smuggling the drugs in? or the drug dealers?
can't close the boarders on this:

https://mises.org/blog/dea-releases-...cription-drugs

" prescription painkillers and heroin."
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Old 10-05-2017, 12:57 PM
 
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There are already over 300 million guns in America. The actual number? Nobody knows.

If America were to lose ten thousand guns a day, it would take 82 years to be gun free. And that's if there's ONLY 300,000,000.

Get used to mass shootings, folks - it has become our reality.
Start with a 100 year plan and keep it going. No more guns manufactured after a certain date.STRONG BUY BACK PROGRAM.

CLOSE THE IRON PIPELINE.
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