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Gotta ban belt loops plus human fingers, along with household rubber bands. Both methods will suffice to replicate the effect of a bump-fire stock in the absence of same.
The Constitution was formed to protect the People's pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness from tyrannical government.
It doesn't do anything to protect us from folks like the Vegas shooter.
We're trading protection from government tyranny for increasingly common massacres. Do we just accept that this is an acceptable price of "freedom"?
from a tyrannical government(s) ...
Depends on if a group like ISIL sees an advantage point, that wasn't there before and capitalizes on it. Our military (which is scattered from here to ten buck two) is our first line of defense, if the citizens are unarmed, what's to stop 'em? And too, do we really want to see what that would look like? I think people in the U.S. like to get up and go to work, shop and take of family, more than they would like to get up to preventing a different flag from being flown on the WH lawn ...
The U.S. is the country that people come to, to get away from ... some of those countries want their people back ... just saying.
No, he used Tovex, which is what explosives manufacturers started making after they stopped making nitroglycerine based TNT, which was more unstable than the current line of moldable, water gel explosives. Tovex is ubiquitous in commercial mining and demolition. Which is why McVeigh robbed a quarry to get the Tovex and PrimDet used in the bomb.
Hey, look at that...a criminal not giving a crap about laws concerning theft because his goal is to blow up a freaking building and kill hundreds of people.
Do you know how easy it is for private citizens to access explosives and accelerants? Hell, Pyrodex is more stable and burns cleaner than black powder, and anyone can buy it off the shelf at Bass Pro Shops and Cabela's. Black powder, Pyrodex, primer caps, etc...ever heard of the reloading hobby?
Take a look at what Mach1+ model rockets use for propellant. Another hobby that uses pretty serious stuff to make things go zippy. Hell, the nitromethane McVeigh used in his bomb was purchased at a race track, where it is used in high performance drag racing. Hobby stuff.
What set McVeigh apart, and Paddock in this latest case, was PREPARATION AND PLANNING. You can take away all the rights you want, but a sociopath with dedication to preparation and planning will still figure out how to carry out their evil. You simply cannot prevent it.
There is nobody arguing that crimes are going stop, we are taking about the scale and frequency of the carnage. To take explosives an bombings as an example. These are the bombings that have happened here since the Oklahoma City Bombing that have taken lives.
— April 15, 2013: Two bombs explode in the packed streets near the finish line of the Boston Marathon, killing two people and injuring more than 80.
— Jan 22, 1998: Theodore Kaczynski pleads guilty in Sacramento, Calif., to being the Unabomber in return for a sentence of life in prison without parole. He's locked up in the federal Supermax prison in Colorado for killing three people and injuring 23 during a nationwide bombing spree between 1978 and 1995.
— Jan. 20, 1998: A bombing at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Ala., kills one guard and injures a nurse. Eric Robert Rudolph is suspected in the case.
— July 27, 1996: A bomb explodes at Centennial Olympic Park in Atlanta during the Summer Games, killing two people and injuring more than 100. Eric Robert Rudolph is arrested in 2003. He pleads guilty and is sentenced to life in prison.
Since 1995: We have had 4 bombing in this country were a life has been taken, total death count 8 people.
Since 1995: we have had 178,000 people killed by firearms used in a homicide.
I would venture that our restrictions on explosives have done a good job in the last 20 years. Firearms, not so much. Change is needed.
I am interested in hearing from those that advocate these laws and why you think they would prevent such a crime.
Ban all assault weapons and lay stiff penalties for sale and purchase of these guns. Nobody needs a killing machine and that is what they are used for.
Sportsman can use regular single shot guns and should be restricted on the type and number of ammunition they can use, and only in hunting season. Vet the applications for guns deeply and thoroughly. Nobody needs to be in a hurry to posess a gun.
Ban open carry. If you carry a gun you are going to want to use it and kill someone.
Guns are for killing people. Less guns and ammunition that people can lay their hands on, less killings. Countries that have banned guns have seen their murder and suicide by gun rates go down significantly. So banning guns and taking it away will make us all safer.
We have the most powerful military and weapons in the world, and skillful, brave, and trained personnel. We invest significant sums of money for this with our tax dollars. If they cannot protect us no gun toting bully is going to.
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I am interested in hearing from those that advocate these laws and why you think they would prevent such a crime.
Don't allow gun manufacturers or ammo manufacturers to operate in the United States, ban the importation of foreign weapons and ammunition, and have cops stop and frisk and permanently confiscate and melt down every gun they find.
That would be the only realistic way. Of course very few people would go for that, I'm just answering your question
Yes we should make it as easy as possible for someone to modify a weapon. If it’s so easy why have the stocks been depleted. A real signature moment for the NRA, they finally came out against something and it only took this to get their attention.
Yes we should make it as easy as possible for someone to modify a weapon. If it’s so easy why have the stocks been depleted. A real signature moment for the NRA, they finally came out against something and it only took this to get their attention.
The NRA is smart enough to know a good deal when they see it.
Don't allow gun manufacturers or ammo manufacturers to operate in the United States, bam the importation of foreign weapons and ammunition, and have cops stop and frisk and permanently confiscate and melt down every gun they find.
That would be the only realistic way. Of course very few people would go for that, I'm just answering your question
You are wrong. many Americans, more than those who oppose, would go for it. I will for any candidate, regardless of party, who runs on the above, and promises to bring a bill to the floor when elected. Many will do the same.
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