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Old 10-30-2017, 10:20 AM
 
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It is not about prevention, we as ordinary people can do nothing about that. That said if you live in Tornado Alley, in a coastal area where Hurricanes can and do occur, live where earthquakes are a possibility, or an area know for wild fires, then you should be prepared to deal with those issues. Do you have a fire extinguisher in your home or car, how about a spare tire in your trunk, yet never had a home fire or flat? Some simple steps can make the difference between you and/or your families survival, if something does happen how are you going to explain to them that you did nothing to prepare for it? Use some Common Sense and you will find that everyone should prepare for whatever may happen to the best of their ability, those that do not may very well be sealing their own fate. Think
Why not "Build Steel Frame Housing" with Reinforced concrete or block Exterior walls, with I beam roofing rafters, with riveted composite material roofing. .

As to Preparing...on a national level for political stability and national progress, it is a big matter, we are ill equipped at this time to deal with, and we have a disaster in our top administrations that makes that impossible at the present time, until he is removed from office and the administration is completely changed.


I'm quite sure during the damages Hitler invoked upon the world, many thought the same thing, of "It can't happen to them".... the haughtiness and self consumption of people has been instrumental in all world chaos, with the downfall of even empires of the past.

People must become more politically aware of what is America.

When the matter was the people "remained by selective choice" to be "politically ignorant" because they thrust that concern upon others, and thus elected people who who promoted the same elements that has brought down empire, and they experienced the same dysfunction, infighting in internal dismantling of their systems and the guards that had been built into during its height of power. All such things became taken for granted.
Debauchery of every sort, became the norm.... and the wealth and power chased vanity and stature, playing their roles of "money gatherers by any means", and when the falls began, the wealth gatherers "scattered themselves to other lands that provided a "safe harbor".

We can't see the forest for the trees, and then we claim the trees to be more than they are, until we even take them for granted.

Maybe one should look at the generalized society and the lowered use of technology as compared to other countries as they build they integrate the better of today's technology, which prepares them for a growth avenues.
We sit back and watch the wealthy, loot anything and everything, and now they promote a scheme to rob the nations resource banks of tax revenue, when the needed tax revenues to rebuild our nation and dismiss our debt, tells us, that our tax rate is not only too low, that we cannot afford to make any cuts. It also tells us, that the issue is not about cutting taxes, its about "greed in corporate profit"..
When what should be of number one concern is.. Increasing the Wages of American People.
When our Banks claim 4-8 BILLION or more profit every 3 months, after they'd shuffled and hid everything they could... if that does not tell us, that our problem in within the greed programming.
When we have a stock market that is destroying industries with its derivatives games, and over-levered us, beyond any remote level to meet such exaggerations... yet, we are not only politically ignorant, we are economic at the level of ignoramuses.... who are too full of lusting and gloating over the wealthy, that we line up with a rushed mentality to be fleeced day by day. Too bad, because this level of ignorance cannot be instantaneously fixed, and it likely may not even be fixable within the span of the next decade.
We don't rise on the global scale of education, we continue to fall.

We have a mass of people lusting after Trump as if the "Industrial Age" will return... When things have long ago moved on to the technical and digital age with automation and computer aided creation of parts and processes.
(examples)
We failed to train people or even make them aware that the bulk needed to move on from the era of the 60's and 70's... mentality about what is "work". The 80's and 90's saw us move from the analog to the digital, even if we look at Music, it went from the old LP's to the Cassettes, to the CD and now to Streaming, but we got an introduction to this in the 1970's with the 8 trk tape.
Now, we see what? Cars that can drive themselves, the old system of Taxi Cab's that reigned supreme in for over 80+ yrs, to Uber and Lyft, and now the push is to get "driver-less cars" that function of a managed grid system, to manage efficiency without the need of human manpower behind the wheel, no need to go park at a fixed mass facility garage, but to stage itself on the Grid for the best performance accessibility to the patrons.
If Amazon is trying out a system to use digital locks on people homes to deliver goods, then what's next other than a driver-less car, with a robotic unit, that accesses the home and bring the goods in, and re-attach itself to the vehicle awaiting its next digital instruction.
We fly drones into war zone, with payloads....
Most people ignored the retirement of the Space Shuttle was followed by the Unit that stayed in orbit for very long time, and today... there's not much talk about what's up there, but something certainly is.

How can we catch up if we continue with this crazy elements of racist madness, ethic madness and fights against cultural diversity not only in american, but how America deals with the world of cultures.

We are due a global valuation change in how value of wealth of a nation is measured. Because we've long moved past the counting things in Millions and 10's or even 100's of millions.. We now count wealth in the billions, 10's of billions and 100's of billions, and on the Global Scale, we now have long past the state of dealing with single digit Trillions, we are into the age of double digit Trillions, and by 2025 we will be counting things in 100's of Trillions. The system of "wages" will move to a level, where Poverty wage will not be any part of the equation. Because factored for base cost, to include home, transportation, food, quality of life elements, and health and social stability, there will be a base level, that become understood as a necessity, or progress is stagnated.
We see the results to today, of wages that did not keep up with advancements, and we have nothing mroe than an expanding ghetto all across American, as well as in other nations, they too are experiencing the same.

Japan has figured something out. It went through the down-spiral, the wage stagnation and it found means to build back, not astronomical but to employ over 80% of their people between the ages of 20-60, and it has understood the need to push its Unions, to demand that profit increase the % of wages paid to the society, as a necessary component to growth. To avert spike and crash, and greed gouging, but to develop a system of economic interactive function. They can do it because, they don't have the "IGNORANCE of Racism"... or the bias and bigotry that Racism promotes. They know they are all Japanese and they don't make themselves crazy about it. They know they have ethnic mixture within their masses, but they still are Japanese.
When American can get over racism, it can push itself to a lead position and growth with stable systems, but never will it achieve such with racism, bigotry and bias that is rooted in the ignorance of racism.

Over-all... we have much to consider and many atonement to make as American Society, or we wither from the chaos within, and we will witness further dismantling of the American System as is being done by the Administration of Trump and the Mad Agenda of White Nationalism and Protectionist Madness.

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Old 10-30-2017, 10:25 AM
 
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How many atomic bombs "went off" over Japan?
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:50 AM
 
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likely not....

But...... Americans sure can get rid of The Buffoon in the White House and the entire gang of monsters he has assembled.
Nah, 2 scoops 2 terms.

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'We can tone down the rhetoric, because we can't go there and reverse the steps they've made to have N. Weapons, and China and Russia seems not to be having an issue with them having this weapon, and they are much closer to them than we are. Besides China and Russia has not tried to "choke them off", because they still feed the N. Korean People, even while knowing that N. Korea spends its money on weapons instead of its people. So, technically, when China and Russia support other things, they are and have been indirectly supporting the expansion of weaponry in N. Korea.
The norks are running out dated tech. Do you seriously believe the Chinese or Russians would equip a psycho that can turn on them at the drop of a hat being that close?
Quit being dramatic.


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Why is the U.S. the main one with continuing Bluster????? There's an entire Global Community on this Planet, and we think we can control others and tell them what they can and cannot do?
We may care to promote some Moral Imperative, but its a bit difficult to back up, when we've blown up much of the Middle East, and only 50 some years ago, we nearly decimated Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam with carpet bombing, and Napalm until it was outlawed.
Thus so.... we have much to consider. Even with Iraq, we once supported Saddam, and at the same time, back-doored him, with the Iran-Contra entanglement.

As average people, we are not of interest to know what is done on the political and international interactive levels as to our government and what is its involvement, because "we feel we are always right", and others are not. That's a matter of much differences when it comes to global opinions and positions behind those opinions.
Everyone claims to want Peace, (under their terms), so... conflict rages.
better open a few history books and read what happened to bring up vietnam...


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The course set by Obama, to promote "DIPLOMACY", with the goal of pursuing and reaching "WORKABLE COMPROMISES" was fought by Republicans and Right Wingers with ever utterance they could regurgitate, and left to them, we would have been at War in Egypt, Syria and Ukraine and who knows where else. Thank Goodness President Obama was not a "warmongering arrogant man nor was he of the haughtiness of trying to be a global elitist with an imperialist agenda. He was about "Diplomacy" and working out agreements that considered all parties into a situation with multi nation support to make agreements.
Dems don't compromise. They cave and accept false promises. Thank Clinton for current issues with the Norks...

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We have a "NUT CASE" in Trump not only pushing that "White Nationalist Madness On The International Stage, he has promoted the arousal and spread of it on American social, in American society.
are Latin Black Sikh and Asian Trump supporters part of that white nationalist madness? If you equate everyone to a fringe element.... sure...
Trump's not a nutcase. He just isn't a Nancy drawing red lines in sand grand standing "diplomacy"

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The world is not unaware of the destructive madness of such mentality nor are they unaware of the extent of vile that has historically been created by such a mentality and the agenda it promotes. Thus so, the world at this point... is not submitting to it. The stand of N. Korea is a message to America, that even the among the poorest and in many ways among the weaker nations, they are standing up saying... Nope, not this time and no more, anytime in the future. They have China and Russian behind them, and if truths were told... we'd know all the other countries who un-spoken-ly rally behind the stand N. Korea has taken to stand up to the Once Upon A Time, "Big Dog" on the block.... Today, just as with any big dog on the block, they get old, fat tired and weakened by their continual fight, and we have the results of that weakness with our broken down infrastructure, our greed driven exodus of Industry, and our desperate need to import everything we use in our daily lives... and we are walking around with Debt, that we could not pay off if we wanted to.
The world of nations is not unaware of this.
Raytheon/General Dynamics, Northrup Grumman, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Pratt and Whitney can put a bunker buster that is accurate to within inches, aboard a stealth capable bomber, with stealth and highly mobile fighters to protect. Equipment wise we are ahead of the Russians Chinese and Norks.
It's when bureaucrats and politicians get involved and old timey WW2 tactics are used that tire the "big dog"

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We are blind to what is reality.... Pre World War II... Europe was a well built and industrial nation, and it was turned into "rubble"..... one would be unaware of much, to think such things could not happen to many of the major cities on this land of American soil. We don't have a "Star Trek Force Field" around America.
Heck, it was during the President Bush administration during the lead of to the economic crash, that administration was trying to "sell" the management of our ports to Dubai.... And today, were have a greed masters trying to rip off the American Tax system AGAIN, while at the same time, ignoring the tax resources needed to rebuild our infrastructure... He does not care, because he has in his mind, means to Outsource, AND make us indebted to Saudi's wealth controls and Russian Monies, by his plans to become indebted to these entities to build something as crucial as our infrastructure.
That's the kind of stuff we did to Third World nations, and now we have a goon in office, that is doing it to us, because with 20 Trillion of Debt, we are now a Third World nation based on 21st Century Standards.


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We have broken down infrastructure, power grid that is aged, and open to be hacked and shut down, we have among the slower internet downloads, and other countries have been streaming content for a decade, and we can't even stream a commercial without the thing stalling and buffering for 15 seconds.
Clear your cookies. My stuff loads in a second. Plastering bandwidth eating walls of text don't help either... processor speed also dictates how fast a page loads... again. My stuff loads with no buffering. Be it Smart TV phone tablet lap top....
Far as infrastructure goes. Look at NY. Among the highest taxed states out there. Bridges roads are horrible. When prince Andy spends it how he sees fit with all the entitlement and welfare programs.... that's what happens...



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We got the likes of Facebook, so busy chasing money, that they sold space to any Russian with money, yet... places like China has the ability to put in controls and manage their content, but we have such greed, that it fight the responsibility of what is regulation.
That's capitalism... nobody has to like the end result... but that's how capitalism works. Facebook is not a bureaucracy controlled by the government... amazing that you like communist China in how they filter and censor their content. The norks do the same thing... obviously you're in love with them and think they'd be on the right side of any sort of war... go move there. You can download your content quicker you said so yourself.
This is America. Not China. CD has mods and admins to filter content, it is its own entity. Not arm of bureaucracy... private entity.

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There is much more to look at than some vanity of pride.. and look at the reality of how we are being driven by Administrative Lack of Responsibility. We are 10 months with an arrogant vain egomaniac dummy in our Presidential seat, that can't even do the basic job to fill our governmental positions. Yet, people are too blind to see the constructive dismantling of America being done from the United States of America's Own Presidential Administration.
If dismantling the liberal and globalist agenda of America is what you are in reference to... GOOD

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We better Relearn and Do so Quickly, what is the Value of Investing in American Small Business Development, and shut up about the cost and get over trying to deny particular groups access and means, and INVEST in the creation and development of Small Business that Leads to the Innovations for The Future.
Uhh... we're heading in the right direction with Trump. His tax plan, if it passes, benefits me tremendously as a small business...
Why do you think he wants to roll back taxes and offer incentives to businesses to stay? Roll back ridiculous epa over reach to get production back here...
Why do you think production went to China to begin with?

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Other countries are fast at it, and we have such vile people in America who detest to see another helped, or assisted and then we add in the ignorance of racism, that does not want to see any group helped, and we take it even further, to the extend of being so bigoted, that we want to keep other races down to push some white nationalist madness.
Hmm... maybe because democrats only want to socialize debt... and not wealth...
If Trump can't get ACA dead and gone by 18... we will find congressmen and senators who will.
The baby of the dems, shall never be forced on the populace ever again.
Health insurance should not be forced. Free markets shall be just that. Can't afford insurance with company A? Don't like the terms and coverages with A? Look at B C D E... but noooo.... can't do that. Gotta have an adult come in and hold your hand... and force their will onto you...

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It's called... Internal Chaos and Aims of Implosion by Design from Within !!!
It's called Winning. And it is great to see.

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One thing can be assured, no matter what the destruction, the old system of white dominance as of the early 20th century, won't return to these lands, even if its turned into a pile of rubble... Not only will Americans not stand for it, the Global Community would not sit idle and allow that ignorance to re-spread itself. Because too many nations remember that damage, losses and death that it has cost them. It's "Diplomacy" and "Destruction:, and that means, within this nation and across the world... Technology has changed the playing field... and if we try to ignore that truth, its only to our detriment to do so.
so that's why progs/libs attack the 2nd... ya'll want a global insurrection against those who value Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness.
Who enjoy the fruits of their labor.
Who are independently wealthy and do not want to fund a utopia for you remove ambition for success.

I didn't get where I am today blatting about "fair" took chances, made changes, sacrificed when necessary and viola. Your mileage may vary. But if you want to sit and don't expect anyone else to fund it.
Be independent and self reliant. Stop relying on the gov. Or tax payer to fund it for you.

Why don't you lead by example or Bernie Sanders lead by example. Pay for others medical and educational expenses yourselves. Be the change you want to see. Go on. Do it. Open your pockets and pay for everyone's medical expenses and educational expenses. Let us know how it works out for you.

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Social media and the 140 character slap stick society... with the short attention span, is its own worst enemy, and the madness is so wide spread, that anything over three lines of text, the average persons head is ready to explode.
I've heard too many times, during aim to talk about details, of people complaining about their head hurts... and I see the same things within the workplace.
Their heads hurt deciphering what your newfangled communist manifesto is every time you press "Submit Reply"
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Old 10-30-2017, 12:24 PM
 
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Nah, 2 scoops 2 terms.


The norks are running out dated tech. Do you seriously believe the Chinese or Russians would equip a psycho that can turn on them at the drop of a hat being that close?
Quit being dramatic.



better open a few history books and read what happened to bring up vietnam...



Dems don't compromise. They cave and accept false promises. Thank Clinton for current issues with the Norks...


are Latin Black Sikh and Asian Trump supporters part of that white nationalist madness? If you equate everyone to a fringe element.... sure...
Trump's not a nutcase. He just isn't a Nancy drawing red lines in sand grand standing "diplomacy"


Raytheon/General Dynamics, Northrup Grumman, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Pratt and Whitney can put a bunker buster that is accurate to within inches, aboard a stealth capable bomber, with stealth and highly mobile fighters to protect. Equipment wise we are ahead of the Russians Chinese and Norks.
It's when bureaucrats and politicians get involved and old timey WW2 tactics are used that tire the "big dog"





Clear your cookies. My stuff loads in a second. Plastering bandwidth eating walls of text don't help either... processor speed also dictates how fast a page loads... again. My stuff loads with no buffering. Be it Smart TV phone tablet lap top....
Far as infrastructure goes. Look at NY. Among the highest taxed states out there. Bridges roads are horrible. When prince Andy spends it how he sees fit with all the entitlement and welfare programs.... that's what happens...




That's capitalism... nobody has to like the end result... but that's how capitalism works. Facebook is not a bureaucracy controlled by the government... amazing that you like communist China in how they filter and censor their content. The norks do the same thing... obviously you're in love with them and think they'd be on the right side of any sort of war... go move there. You can download your content quicker you said so yourself.
This is America. Not China. CD has mods and admins to filter content, it is its own entity. Not arm of bureaucracy... private entity.


If dismantling the liberal and globalist agenda of America is what you are in reference to... GOOD


Uhh... we're heading in the right direction with Trump. His tax plan, if it passes, benefits me tremendously as a small business...
Why do you think he wants to roll back taxes and offer incentives to businesses to stay? Roll back ridiculous epa over reach to get production back here...
Why do you think production went to China to begin with?


Hmm... maybe because democrats only want to socialize debt... and not wealth...
If Trump can't get ACA dead and gone by 18... we will find congressmen and senators who will.
The baby of the dems, shall never be forced on the populace ever again.
Health insurance should not be forced. Free markets shall be just that. Can't afford insurance with company A? Don't like the terms and coverages with A? Look at B C D E... but noooo.... can't do that. Gotta have an adult come in and hold your hand... and force their will onto you...


It's called Winning. And it is great to see.


so that's why progs/libs attack the 2nd... ya'll want a global insurrection against those who value Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness.
Who enjoy the fruits of their labor.
Who are independently wealthy and do not want to fund a utopia for you remove ambition for success.

I didn't get where I am today blatting about "fair" took chances, made changes, sacrificed when necessary and viola. Your mileage may vary. But if you want to sit and don't expect anyone else to fund it.
Be independent and self reliant. Stop relying on the gov. Or tax payer to fund it for you.

Why don't you lead by example or Bernie Sanders lead by example. Pay for others medical and educational expenses yourselves. Be the change you want to see. Go on. Do it. Open your pockets and pay for everyone's medical expenses and educational expenses. Let us know how it works out for you.


Their heads hurt deciphering what your newfangled communist manifesto is every time you press "Submit Reply"

Thank you, you are the example of what I wrote. Keep on Denying, and this trip of grandstanding, like you made it all by yourself.... maybe you better check a few things and it might bring you off that soap box.
You evidently have no idea what is America and How its System work or why it became the nation that it is. It certainly did not do or become so by "grand-standers" claiming they did it all themselves, and it did not do it without a good tax base.
It does not matter how much you are devoted to Trump, he's an arse that is hung up on greedy by any means, when there is the reality of a global society, that is not going to vanish today, nor tomorrow. and We will NOT become an autocracy as is within his ideals.

America did not only run all industry to foreign lands because of environmental regulations, if you want additional parts of the truths, lets put it out there; "again"!!!. surely its a given that you will be eager to deny, yet, I'll give it to you.. anyway.... : PART of ... the reason was after 1964, Civil Rights Act, it meant Unions were no more to be dominated by "white males only", " it meant equal pay for all ethnicities", and "it meant that women could compete for jobs, and pay"... all such things white dominated society had built walls up to block out minorities and women. It also meant that minorities and women could move into the "economic middle class", where the "white male" was no longer to be the dominator of the economic sector, and he could no longer use "money" and lack of job opportunity to control woman, and make her submissive unto him. By 1969, Nixon was wired up to remove ore processing and bust up the base of the Steel Workers Unions, and to do that, was to get rid first of ore process, and then came the rest of the industrial pieces that had strong unions.
The easiest in the mind of the right winger white males as a way to fight against that, was to "ship industry to foreign shores", his aims was ..."remove the means"... and the whole thing backfired in the general populations face, only the wealth white males who created and orchestrated this mess, became billionaires instead of simply millionaires, and the general white society, rsulted to fall into the same pit that was dug with intent for minorities and woman.
It's not hard to have figured that out... when one looks at a society that still today, push racism, white nationalistic aims, and would love to diminish minorities and women even more... and such a same system, still to this day, resents that any woman or minority gets to use any public programs, because these same men who wanted to control woman and minorities, resent that the government has a safety net, which takes the place of either relying on the white elitist.
Yep, quite sure you are quite upset.....

But, denial won't work... they never have and will not be what builds nor drives the future. The history of the bigoted white male, the biased grand-standers, and the delusional who seek white dominance, will find within their spin a series of what he will term as horrors that he cannot make go away. The generalized anguish because of the fiction of being taught that everything, was to be white run, and white driven, white dominated, did not work as these goons planned.

History has had many Great Empires.. who thought they were invincible... and here today, they are no longer the Great Empires they once claimed to be.

ACA is here... Right Wingers and Republican have attacked it every way they could imagine, but truth and fact is.... it is here to stay and will be improved ....

By the time Mueller finishes his work, and hopefully long before, Trump will be gone, it only takes a few more people to find honesty and truth and setup and he will be "impeached".

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Old 10-30-2017, 06:45 PM
 
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How many atomic bombs "went off" over Japan?
1 over Hiroshima 2 on Nagasaki
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Old 10-30-2017, 06:49 PM
 
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While I was away apparently the mice will play. Chance I truly think that your posts would be better submitted as an op ed to the NY Times. Its far to hard to follow your logic (of which there is precious little).

What happened today on the matter?
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Old 10-30-2017, 07:57 PM
 
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1 over Hiroshima 2 on Nagasaki
ONE bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, and ONE bomb was dropped on Nagasaki. That's it.

There were NEVER three atomic bombs dropped on Japan!
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:45 PM
 
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Word is Kim's doing a real good job in pissing off China with his nuke tests, especially if that mountain on the border goes "kaboom".
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:06 PM
 
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Do you think the US and Allies will surprise attack to offset his launching of missiles to the South?
No I don't think so because NK is very much different then the middle east where you see surprise air attack. NK is on high alert all the time and has prepared for this for years they have the capacity to strike south Korea 100's of Rocket and regular artillery . The only way to deal with NK will be a full invasion to remove UN from power that will lead to problems with China and Russia which both supported NK in the 1950's. The only way I see a military action is for NK to do something first.
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Old 10-31-2017, 04:09 AM
 
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ONE bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, and ONE bomb was dropped on Nagasaki. That's it.

There were NEVER three atomic bombs dropped on Japan!
You got that right man. And nothing is gonna happen as i keep typing.
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