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Old 11-04-2017, 10:05 AM
 
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Where are the Trumpees who are pissed because "They are taking OUR JOBS !" ? These are jobs good Americans could be filling.

I'm outraged, I tell ya, I'm outraged !

Next, you will be telling me Trump has all his clothing and other products made overseas !

When will this end !!!!
Did you apply?
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Busted.


Hahahahahaha.

So Mar Largo firsted advertises for local workers to fill seasonal jobs. Can't get them. So then hires LEGAL immigrants to fill these positions.

What is wrong with this?

You guys are really grasping for straws these days.
The job description was created to exclude US workers.

One has to be available to work a maximum of 5 hours a day/ 7 days/ wk including weekends and holidays for $11.88/ hr, during split shifts between the hours of 7:00a- 11:00p.

This precludes the ability of a worker to work elsewhere.

Bottom line, Mar-a-Lago pays the employee $ 3.71/ HR to forgo other employment opportunities in a seasonally tight local labor market. Where exactly does a worker go during down time if he/ she does not agree to pay Mara-a-Lago $50-75 / week for housing, deducted from the low wage? Notice the ad did not offer board. The employee is responsible for their own food.

The POTUS, who ran on a campaign to put America first/ make America great again and create jobs, offers prospective employees $3.71/ HR, less housing expenses.

Why doesn't Mar-a-Lago participate in the local annual Palm Beach job fair? Could it be that no one in their right mind would apply, when better jobs that pay more are being offered by the competition? How embarrassing.

Mar-a-Lago employs serious hundreds of people, in season. They offer better value proposistions to others than the one advertized, else they would be unable to fill any position.

Mar-a-Lago GAMES certain job descriptions to exclude American workers in favor of legally importing foreign workers.

Ten months in, the job numbers continue a 100 month pattern of very slow, albeit steady recovery. The job numbers continue to fall below expectations and are typically revised downward. The Labor Participation rate declines. Most of the jobs being created are low wage, hospitality and food service positions.


This is what winning looks like?
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:17 AM
 
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He can most definitely insist his companies hire Americans.

It is within his capabilities.

This isn't a little known practice. We've been talking about this publicly since he whined about 'foreigners taking jobs away from Americans.".

At the last family gathering a simple -- hey boys you need to do as I say --- let's hire Americans.

and poof done.


So don't pretend this is something out of his scope of capabilities and awareness.

That's just naive.
They are legal, nothing more needs to be said.. you just wanna whine..
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:19 AM
 
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They are legal, nothing more needs to be said.. you just wanna whine..
Personally, I'm not against foreign workers.

But I didn't just run a 2 year long divisive campaign on this issue and get elected for it, either.

The point being made in this thread is very clear. Trump doesn't walk the walk when push comes to shove. Not that this is surprising based on past behaviors of his companies.
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Why not give those jobs to Americans, Mr. Orange?
How many Americans with fine dining/ resort experience would take a dead end split shift, 16 HR/ day job paying an effective gross wage of $ 3.71/ HR that precludes them from seeking employment elsewhere?

How many of those willing to take such a job at this wage have reliable transportation to get to the job site?

Where does such an employee go during the down time between shifts if they do not have a deposit for housing and/ or choose not to have their wage reduced for insight housing? Who knows? Maybe some live in their cars in the employee parking lot out of sight of guests.

How many could pass a background check?

The job description has been GAMED to exclude most American workers.

Trump Org gets a better bang for the $ by legally employing foreign workers. Each H2b visa is good for a renewable 3 year term. Presumably some of these workers chase the seasons and patch together multiple seasonal jobs.

They can export their income back home where the standard and cost of living is a fraction of anywhere in the US.

The disconnect between Trump's blah blah and action is obvious to the most casual observer.

Gawd only knows the incremental cost incurred by the Federal Government to perform incremental background checks on all Trump Org resort/ golf employees given POTUS prefers to spend nearly every weekend at one of his own properties instead of the WH.
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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So what you are saying is that there are jobs that no Americans will take and that we need foreigners to come in and take these jobs?
This pretty much sums it up. If you try to follow the conservative logic on immigrant hiring, it looks something like this:


1. We need to take care of 'Murica first and hire 'Muricans to do the jobs that are going to immigrants.


2. Yeah, maybe Trump outsources his manufacturing and hires immigrants for his resort, but 'Muricans don't want those jobs anyway. We're talking about real jobs, like coal mining.


3. And another thing... we can actually thank liberals for these practices, because they push so hard for globalism. You can't really expect Trump to look a gift horse in the mouth, can you? He's a businessman, not a politician!


4. Look over there! Hillary's e-mails. Pizza parlors. Uranium.
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by HockeyMac18 View Post
Personally, I'm not against foreign workers.

But I didn't just run a 2 year long divisive campaign on this issue and get elected for it, either.

The point being made in this thread is very clear. Trump doesn't walk the walk when push comes to shove. Not that this is surprising based on past behaviors of his companies.


Agreed.

The irony is that his base will rationalize anything he does and ignore the disconnects, come what may.

No shortage of voters like me who held their noses and voted for Trump who will NEVER be a part of his base.
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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They are legal, nothing more needs to be said.. you just wanna whine..
So are H1 B visa workers.

So is operating/ contracting cheaper labor in a foreign country and importing their intellectual output to the US.
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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Was this not the ad that listed you had to fax your resume to Mar-a-Lago and then the fax line was disconnected?
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Old 11-04-2017, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Someone believes the President, is responsible for hiring toilet cleaners in Florida.. haha
Buck passing?

Trump is the sole beneficiary of the trusts created to avoid a perception of avoiding conflicts of interest.

He/ family are responsible for Trump Org employment policies and practices. The resort manager is responsible for execution of corporate employment polices and practices.
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