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Now, most certainly he will have his supporters out there and on this forum, talking about how P.C. has run amok even in military boot camp/basic training, that there was absolutely nothing wrong with what this Marine did.
All I will say that any drill instructor has ZERO reason to lay his hands on a recruit to the point of slapping them and stomping all over them and other forms of sadistic hazing nonsense. I don't care what your grandpappy experienced during boot, this is the year 2018 and there is no need for that nonsense. I don't care if you think that this kind of abuse is 'necessary' to train recruits. It isn't.
I have no problems with drill instructors yelling and screaming and making recruits do physical exercise as punishment and hazing. This is a time honored tradition of basic/boot to shock civilians, break them down, and mold them into a cohesive soldier/Marine. However, there is a line you don't cross.
A Marine Corps drill instructor convicted of physically abusing young recruits, one of whom killed himself, was sentenced Friday to 10 years in military prison.
The eight-man jury at Camp Lejeune, N.C., on Friday also sentenced 34-year-old Gunnery Sgt. Joseph Felix to forfeiture of all pay, reduction of his rank to private and a dishonorable discharge.
Now, most certainly he will have his supporters out there and on this forum, talking about how P.C. has run amok even in military boot camp/basic training, that there was absolutely nothing wrong with what this Marine did.
All I will say that any drill instructor has ZERO reason to lay his hands on a recruit to the point of slapping them and stomping all over them and other forms of sadistic hazing nonsense. I don't care what your grandpappy experienced during boot, this is the year 2018 and there is no need for that nonsense. I don't care if you think that this kind of abuse is 'necessary' to train recruits. It isn't.
Well, I was born in 1985. I think the word "hazing" should be redefined. For example, in whose world, gold wing pinning ceremony should be considered hazing?
This story is about
a 34-year-old Iraq veteran and decorated Marine, punched, kicked and choked recruits in his charge, including one who killed himself.
A Marine Corps drill instructor who was convicted of harassing and assaulting dozens of young recruits — directing particular rage at Muslim enlistees — has been sentenced to 10 years in prison.
He shouldn't have punched or kicked or choked the recruits, but if somebody committed suicide, well, they shouldn't be in the Marine Corps anyway. When my brother served in the Marine Corps, there was one person committed suicide during bootcamp training, I don't think drill instructor should be blamed for that. No?
My brother has been "hazed" in bootcamp and in Recon training; my fiance has been hazed, all my friends have been hazed. Just saying. Did the drill instructor single anybody out? come on now.
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Dude is a hard one for sure. But from what I hear recruits complained about "knife hand" so much that it has been disallowed? Give me an effing break. And little cards in the Army to hold up if you feel you are being mistreated? Committing suicide because someone yelled and slapped you tells me there were other problems with that boy. I am sad for his parents but dang - and to sue? If any of the people complaining about boot camp actually have to go to war, I hope they are able to be relied up by the men standing next to them. If you can't then the armed services are not for you.
All I will say that any drill instructor has ZERO reason to lay his hands on a recruit to the point of slapping them and stomping all over them and other forms of sadistic hazing nonsense. I don't care what your grandpappy experienced during boot, this is the year 2018 . . . .
I will pay top dollar for newspapers from the future! There's a lot of money to be made!
first of all, Happy 242nd birthday USMC, on the Island religious hazing didn't happen to us, no one encouraged it, i thought it was a thing of the past
there was screaming physical hardships and body strikes. that was for a good purpose! nothing that could kill, but somethings that might make you scared ... no dryers.
I have read none of the testimony but still I can be pissed that this guy got ruined and Bergdahl walked for walking and traitorous spy Chesea Bradley Manning got medical treatment for a sex change.
That is surely mixed up judgment.
Now, most certainly he will have his supporters out there and on this forum, talking about how P.C. has run amok even in military boot camp/basic training, that there was absolutely nothing wrong with what this Marine did.
All I will say that any drill instructor has ZERO reason to lay his hands on a recruit to the point of slapping them and stomping all over them and other forms of sadistic hazing nonsense. I don't care what your grandpappy experienced during boot, this is the year 2018 and there is no need for that nonsense. I don't care if you think that this kind of abuse is 'necessary' to train recruits. It isn't.
I have no problems with drill instructors yelling and screaming and making recruits do physical exercise as punishment and hazing. This is a time honored tradition of basic/boot to shock civilians, break them down, and mold them into a cohesive soldier/Marine. However, there is a line you don't cross.
I don't disagree with the sentiment. However the punishment is way out of line for the "crime". Bergdahl did FAR worse and got 6 men killed looking for his deserting azz. And that POS gets ZERO prison time. This guy-dishonorable discharge at worst, with no prison.
I don't disagree with the sentiment. However the punishment is way out of line for the "crime". Bergdahl did FAR worse and got 6 men killed looking for his deserting azz. And that POS gets ZERO prison time. This guy-dishonorable discharge at worst, with no prison.
He got 10 years in military prison. In my opinion, not fair.
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For example, in whose world, gold wing pinning ceremony should be considered hazing?
