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Old 11-22-2017, 05:20 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Haakon View Post
In Washington you can't even buy from a private seller without getting a background check. Since the ignorant passed that law (RCW 9.41.113)exactly 0 people have been prosecuted for breaking it and it has had absolutely zero impact on crime, but the accomplish nothing party managed to claim they're "doing something" about "gun violence".

Just one more of their "just a little more restriction" the OP is talking about.
Yea but one more piece of the frame work is in place, once all of their frame work is in place then all they have to do is draconian enforcement which can happen over night once you have the legal frame work. Unless the people are willing to fight the state enmass then everyone is screwed.

 
Old 11-22-2017, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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These people who point out that guns sometimes come from other states, and use that fact to suggest further "gun control" laws, are reinforcing a point I made earlier:

The only legislation that would really reduce the amount of "gun violence", is a total gun ban, followed by ruthless confiscation nationwide.

The people complaining that guns are brought across state lines, have such a ban as their ultimate goal, but they don't dare admit it.

And when they get to the confiscation part, do they think that all gun owners would meekly surrender their guns when the national gun police come calling from door to door to collect them? And searching every house to make sure there are none left? As the "gun control" advocate have so vividly demonstrated for the last several decades, partial measures don't work. They must take away EVERY gun owned by the people, or the scheme fails.

Have these people considered what will happen when many gun owners refuse to give up their guns? Even a few guns left in the hands of the people, will invalidate the entire purpose of the ban and confiscation. The gun police would have no choice but to use force.

How many formerly law-abiding citizens will have to die before the gun police achieve their aim of zero guns in the people's hands?
No one is asking you to surrender your gun, just asking for more sensible gun laws.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 05:24 PM
 
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No one is asking you to surrender your gun, just asking for more sensible gun laws.
"sensible gun laws" = legal frame work to later conduct confiscations OR future gun purchases very difficult
 
Old 11-22-2017, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Yea but one more piece of the frame work is in place, once all of their frame work is in place then all they have to do is draconian enforcement which can happen over night once you have the legal frame work. Unless the people are willing to fight the state enmass then everyone is screwed.
More than Willing Fight for my Rights, and I am Not alone.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 05:27 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Neither Indiana, Wisconsin or MS regulate guns other than a background check. No waiting period, no license or permit required. Most states around 70% of guns used in a crime come from within and in the case of Chicago its reversed. Its easier to for criminals to get guns in those states, that is pretty clear. It's lax guns laws, its proximity and also special situations about migration and criminal connections in other states.
Wait....



LOL what?!

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Neither Indiana, Wisconsin or MS regulate guns other than a background check. No waiting period, no license or permit required.

Its easier to for criminals to get guns in those states
Background checks deny criminals access to firearms...
 
Old 11-22-2017, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Gone
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No one is asking you to surrender your gun, just asking for more sensible gun laws.
Actually that is the final goal, so no, I am not willing to turn them in, to even register them.
Enforce the Constitutional Laws on the books and leave it there.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 05:40 PM
 
Location: PSL
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No one is asking you to surrender your gun, just asking for more sensible gun laws.
Sensible gun laws.

The arbitrary banning of anything that resembles a military firearm in visual appearance?

The limiting of magazine capacity?

The taxing of ammo and arms?

Limits on ammo purchase?

The registration of firearms currently kept?

Yeah...That will be a no to the above.

How about... follow the current laws on the books. Repeal the Hughes amendment and NFA.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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No one is asking you to surrender your gun, just asking for more sensible gun laws.
Name one that has any possible chance of working.

Only one I can think of is more severe consequences of using a gun in a crime.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Wait....



LOL what?!



Background checks deny criminals access to firearms...



NY state requires a license and that can take up to 6 months, that is not the case in many of these states.
 
Old 11-22-2017, 06:20 PM
 
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NY state requires a license and that can take up to 6 months, that is not the case in many of these states.
A totally unfair law to law abiding people.
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