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As a practical matter they are already tolled, you are paying about 1.5 cents per mile on average in fuel taxes. What needs to be done is wipe the slate clean and institute a tax per mile based on the weight of the vehicle.
Agreed.
The people using roads should pay for them based on their use.
Yep this is the work of leftists. They tried to make this change in NYC but thankfully the city needed the approval of the state to move forward and the gop controlled state senate wouldn't sign on.
Plenty of non-"leftists" saying the opposite. Tolling is actually a pretty right-wing idea.
Houston and Texas in general has developed a toll road overeliance. In the Houston area, every time a new road is built, if the government can make it a toll road, they do. Once the road becomes tolled, it never stops being tolled. Our oldest toll road has been charging since 1989, enough to pay for itself 12 times over. And we're still paying for it and at least 9 others just in this city.
I-90 was run through NYS in I think the 1950s. Toll road there-the NYS Thruway (funny how that interstate is not a toll road though the rest of the country). Was supposed to be toll for~10 years to pay for the initial construction. Guess what? Still a toll road. Some state and local governments are just plain greedy.
The highway was always HOV only east bound during the morning, west bound during the evening rushes. They changed it to now it is toll free for HOV, but now non-HOV can drive on it by paying a toll.
There were numerous discussion about the tolls, but I do not think they ever pegged the max dollar amount that high. Anyway, the non-HOV drivers can still use the routes they always took before the tolls came into place.
At that, the DC area and the immediate areas like Arlington county are burdened with the huge growth outside of the areas and everyone commuting in, then everyone complains like at Arlington County and VDOT why can they not accommodate in regards to traffic the huge influx of people that have arrived in a relatively short time.
In order to avoid such tolls you'd need to have a HOV with an EZ pass installed. If you can't make roads wider, the only way to limit congestion is to make it prohibitively expensive to drive solo.
Toll roads are for the rich people. Everyone already paid for the road.... They tax it to keep the riff-raft off and out of the way of the important people.
Houston and Texas in general has developed a toll road overeliance. In the Houston area, every time a new road is built, if the government can make it a toll road, they do. Once the road becomes tolled, it never stops being tolled. Our oldest toll road has been charging since 1989, enough to pay for itself 12 times over. And we're still paying for it and at least 9 others just in this city.
They are making it so you cannot get around in Houston, or Dallas, without having to take a toll road.
Austin is not far behind, it looks like.
The intellectuals in charge of our roadway infrastructure, do not see the need when building roads is the population growth. By the time the road is completed in 3 years, it already needs to be widened for another lane or 2.
Now to combat population growth and our roads... Code NEXT LOL!
I-35 through Austin, soon to be tolled, to make up for the lack of vision of growth in the 1970's.
Plenty of non-"leftists" saying the opposite. Tolling is actually a pretty right-wing idea.
Tolling isn't a partisan thing. Its this kind of excessive polling and the mood for congestion pricing and the like that has almost exclusively been embraced by leftists.
Tolling isn't a partisan thing. Its this kind of excessive polling and the mood for congestion pricing and the like that has almost exclusively been embraced by leftists.
Lol...ok.
"Isn't a partisan thing..."
"Embraced by leftists..."
Paying for what you use is a very right-wing idea. If you don't think so, you're not paying attention.
Yep this is the work of leftists. They tried to make this change in NYC but thankfully the city needed the approval of the state to move forward and the gop controlled state senate wouldn't sign on.
Wrong, it is the work of governments, Lib and Con, Texas is covered in toll roads.
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Liberals have been pushing for tolls for years
the changes in very liberal northern Virginia (NOVA) for I64, were made by the liberals.....btw Loudoun County Supervisor Ron Meyer a Republican member of a key Virginia transportation panel said*he plans to introduce a measure calling for immediate changes to the tolling.In the draft resolution, Meyer contends the Virginia Department of Transportation “never told the public or this commission about this extremely high level of tolling before implementation.” https://wtop.com/dc-transit/2017/12/...66-toll-hours/
2014- A transportation proposal by the Obama administration to remove a prohibition on tolls for existing Interstate highway
2008 presentation by the liberal Puget Sound Regional Council, officials pushed a plan to toll every highway by the year 2040 in order to raise billions in revenue to improve infrastructure.
Funny how you equate tolls with liberals, when conservative Texas has a ton of toll roads, and I'm a liberal and hate tolls and go out of my way to avoid them
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