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Old 12-10-2017, 01:24 PM
 
Location: USA
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What do you think happens when you give all the wealth, corporate welfare, tax breaks and benefits to the top 1%? You end up with a third world Banana Republic complete with a deranged orange dictator, not unlike every other country in Latin America. It's not rocket science.
Yep. Red state rule has proven to be a failure, objectively. But those on the far-right do not care. Their top priorities are "religion," guns, and keeping "those people in their place." Economic development, education, health-care, and everything else be damned.
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:26 PM
 
Location: USA
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Liberals love to mock the states with the highest Black populations and praise the states with the lowest Black populations.
Lol, so you think the percentage population of blacks, not actual economic policy, is what has produced such grinding poverty in the deep south?

Tell me again how bigotry is not part of the Republican platform while tossing around concepts like that one? Unreal what passes for reasoning these days.
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:28 PM
 
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Only through the mid-20th century; for the last 40 years, it's been a red state, and during that time has turned into a pool of poverty.
If you think Alabama only turned into a "pool of poverty" in the last 40 yrs you don't know any history or haven't visited Alabama
Alabama has always had lot of poverty--pre-statehood, during the Civil War and afterwards--
Rural state much more likely to have wholesale poverty than prosperity---
It is really only in the last part of the 20th century up to now with the growth of Birmingham as a medical/university center and Huntsville with the space program that you have seen it move into.more middle class strata (IMO) but there is plenty of poverty even in those towns and especially in rural areas
Mobile probably did pretty well in WW2 because of the navy and shipyards too--
Isolated pockets rather than generalized...
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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You do realize you're kind of proving their point?
Bad neighborhoods are the result of the people who live there. If the grass is not trimmed or the house isn't maintained, then whose fault is that? The UN critic seems to think that the neighborhood should be maintained by the government or that if you gave more money to irresponsible people then they would use it responsibly.

The UN critic is out of touch with reality. There are slums in France and the UK that are way worse than what he saw in Alabama. And southern Italy has long been full of run down slums.

Here is one Paris slum that is famous for its crime and drugs:

Paris' Saint Denis where ISIS terrorists flit to Syria and back 'with ease' | Daily Mail Online
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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And the neighborhood in Selma didn't even look that bad. I've seen way worse neighborhoods all over the country.
Not exactly the point you wish to make, I suspect...

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Poverty is all relative. Poor people in America have it way better than people in the developing world.
From the shining city on the hill to "at least we're better than Somalia".
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:36 PM
 
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Oh look, another poster who thinks the last 100 years of poverty are all Trump's fault.
It's the other way around. Trump being elected is the fault of generations of poverty.
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:43 PM
 
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Bad neighborhoods are the result of the people who live there. If the grass is not trimmed or the house isn't maintained, then whose fault is that? The UN critic seems to think that the neighborhood should be maintained by the government or that if you gave more money to irresponsible people then they would use it responsibly.

The UN critic is out of touch with reality. There are slums in France and the UK that are way worse than what he saw in Alabama. And southern Italy has long been full of run down slums.

Here is one Paris slum that is famous for its crime and drugs:

Paris' Saint Denis where ISIS terrorists flit to Syria and back 'with ease' | Daily Mail Online
The poor can't afford to hire illegals to cut their grass and paint their house.
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:45 PM
 
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Not exactly the point you wish to make, I suspect...

From the shining city on the hill to "at least we're better than Somalia".
Not by much.

Hookworm Infections and Sanitation Failures Plague Rural Alabama
This isn't just Alabama. Rural states are plagued with poverty where residents can't even afford a septic tank (about $5K) and raw sewage is just dumped into streams.

New civil rights movement emerges around septic system pollution
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I take it these UN officials have never been to Detroit...
Or Compton or Chicago. Some bordering counties in Texas, New Mexico, etc, see crimes that can rival a horror movie.
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Old 12-10-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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It's the other way around. Trump being elected is the fault of generations of poverty.
And ignorance... and a certain segment of the population still being mad about which side won the Civil War.

I laugh when Americans chide nations overseas for continuing wars and hatred centuries after the conflict has ended. This nation is no better - we still have angry rubes flying Rebel flags over 150 years after that war ended.
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