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Old 12-20-2017, 05:18 AM
 
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Apparently not or the House would not have voted to approve the law. Those Representatives speak for their voters.
The downward slide towards Corporatocracy, or 'Monarchy' or Oligarchy or ... began 3 or 4 decades ago. Made much worse by ...

Four Years After Citizens United: The Fallout

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/201...d-the-fallout/
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:20 AM
 
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So you think people with the most money should not pay the most. Interesting economic theory. Would get you and F in any decent college.
"So you think people with the most money should not pay the most."

After this bill takes affect nothing will change, even though the left thinks it will.

The people with the most money WILL CONTINUE pay the most.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:20 AM
 
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When Bush looted our Treasury he had the sense to send checks to all the little people. Not this guy.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:23 AM
 
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"So you think people with the most money should not pay the most."

After this bill takes affect nothing will change, even though the left thinks it will.

The people with the most money WILL CONTINUE pay the most.
Exactly.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:24 AM
 
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As to the latter, which also applies to everything else, economists know WHY the US is dysfunctional:


The liberal case for regressive taxation

Let that sink in...

That's what's inherently wrong with a progressive tax system such as we have here in the US; it distorts and exacerbates income/wealth inequality by necessity in order to maximize tax revenue. The Europeans and Scandinavians have figured that out, and therefore rely most heavily on regressive taxes such as VAT and MUCH flatter income tax brackets.
About the 20th cut and paste you've done of the same BS used to hide the basic fact that you are simply ideologically opposed to taxation. It has nothing to do with good public policy or the common good, only catering to our anti-government anti tax agenda.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:24 AM
 
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When Bush looted our Treasury he had the sense to send checks to all the little people. Not this guy.
I can see you now. Best Buy has a 20% off sale, and you think you should get money back even though you didn’t purchase anything from them.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:25 AM
 
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People on the left continue to forget that corporations are owned by people. Millions of people have invested in corporations. When corporations succeed, so do millions of stock holders.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:25 AM
 
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About the 20th cut and paste you've done of the same BS used to hide the basic fact that you are simply ideologically opposed to taxation.
I'm not opposed to taxation. Just make it a flat tax rate. That eliminates the problem the economist noted in my post.
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:29 AM
 
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About the 20th cut and paste you've done of the same BS used to hide the basic fact that you are simply ideologically opposed to taxation. It has nothing to do with good public policy or the common good, only catering to our anti-government anti tax agenda.
Yup. Much of the copy/pasting comes down to this:

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****." - W C Fields
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Old 12-20-2017, 05:30 AM
 
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I'm not opposed to taxation. Just make it a flat tax rate. That eliminates the problem the economist noted in my post.
But, wouldn’t that mean the more you make, the more you pay?

I just wanted to get some clarification before people claim that such a system would mean the high earners would pay less than the low earners.

I know.... math, but some here believe math is witchcraft.

If you earn $1,000,000 and pay 10%, that is $100,000.

If you earn $30,000 and pay 10%, that is $3,000.

$100,000 is 33 Times greater than $3,000.
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