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Old 01-07-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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Actually, audio of entire book in on youtube now. I listened to portions of it yesterday for a couple of hours, nothing really new in it IF you keep up with day-to-day news. But there are a lot of people that don't and for them the book could be a real revelation.
Too, rather than being a complete hatchet job the book comes across as fairly reasonable. The fact that much IS innocuous makes it much more "believable" and in the end influential.

Just a few pages into the Russian chapter (so this is hardly complete) .. it starts off with Sally Yates and observations (from WH staff?) that Trump "got" politicians but was mystified by career bureaucrats amazed that someone would hold a job where they couldn't get paid by more $200,000 annually. Why? He didn't get it. That's lovely for a working class supporter to read.

Rather than the WH being in on some plot with Flynn (who is described by 3 WH officials on the record as a "****-up," hard-to-handle) ... her warning was taken more as silly tittle-tattle (feminine overtones). Women-readers here?

"like she found out her girlfriend's husband flirted with somebody else and, standing on principle, had to tell on him."

Likewise, with the Russian investigation ... Wolff rather than making-stuff-up reports that the President (as told by staffers) DID view the story as senseless. OTOH (and here comes the kicker) the book reports Bannon as saying that the Trump team wasn't CAPABLE of conspiring about anything.

A book theme is kind of the-gang-who-couldn't-shoot straight. The President is quoted as telling a friend that the press takes HIS exaggerations and then exaggerates the exaggerations. Okay .........

Wolff then includes general political analysis to put Trump miss-steps into perspective. Democrats WILL push the Russian issue for their political advantage ... some on the Hill (Republicans) view it as possible leverage for an unpredictable Trump. Trump here is portrayed as not being politically adept - and worse himself inflaming situations due to emotion-driven responses and obtuseness.

So there's nothing (in many parts) particularly dramatic but ...

By including background context with various vignettes, the book may help a reader grasp WHY some question Trump. The reader may well come to view the narrative as a tad more complicated than:

MSM is fake news.

By basing it (at least on part) on WH staff ... it increases the probability that a reader will put themselves there on the scene and have their own AH-HA or questioning moments. Not being "told" by a commentator that Trump is (basically) incompetent as a POTUS but by "discovering" it themselves as they read through various very readable scenarios, the idea gains credibility.

Very interesting process.

 
Old 01-07-2018, 03:33 PM
 
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The cry baby liberals have only their wet diapers to bawl in, after they lost their Queen Hillary, so it's only fitting they would drink up the new garbage book like last nights baby formula.


The fact that some liberals are actually buying this fabricated rag shows their true intelligence.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 03:49 PM
 
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The cry baby liberals have only their wet diapers to bawl in, after they lost their Queen Hillary, so it's only fitting they would drink up the new garbage book like last nights baby formula.

The fact that some liberals are actually buying this fabricated rag shows their true intelligence.
Like the book or not, that's a mantra that doesn't really compute.

For example, it's not as if Wolff wrote that some unnamed staffer reported the President is terrified more will come out about Russia. A "fabrication" would do THAT. (Or at least, I don't think Wolff did ... haven't finished the chapter and really HAVE to go pack more.)

More, this ISN'T Mommie Dearest where all of a sudden a daughter disclosed how terrible her mother (Joan Crawford) was behind closed doors - a total REVELATION.

Trump is POTUS, the book builds on well-established events then introduces or overlays the take of staffers providing context that isn't particularly flattering to Trump - with Bannon probably the lead.

So throw away lines ... just don't work. Discount, question it yes - but you'll have to work harder.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 04:00 PM
 
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Really? Future sales of the book will pale to the speaking fees and future movie deal.
Exactly. Wolff will be invited all over the country to speak and it looks like he has the inside track on the first movie.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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The cry baby liberals have only their wet diapers to bawl in, after they lost their Queen Hillary, so it's only fitting they would drink up the new garbage book like last nights baby formula.


The fact that some liberals are actually buying this fabricated rag shows their true intelligence.
Fabrications? Ummm.

There were interesting/trivial parts.

Like Trump is totally bald (except fringes around the back and sides) and the contortions he goes thru combing his remaining hair, spraying it afterwards to keep everything in place with stuff that turns color on him.

He throws his shirts on the floor, won't let staff pick them up.

A real puzzle, he changes sheets on his bed himself, that was strange.

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Old 01-07-2018, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Take a look at this interview of Michael Wolf back in Nov 2016 he says how he was basically labeled a Trump supporter while news talk shows sat around talking about how they were so wrong about who was going to win the election he was one of the few reporters who was interested in Trump. This kind of goes along with his claim that he had full access to Trump. He seems creditable to me and his claims that the inner circle think Trump is out of his mind might be true.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdBW0U-kmF8&t=310s
 
Old 01-07-2018, 04:41 PM
 
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The cry baby liberals have only their wet diapers to bawl in,....
oh sweet irony.

you're whining that the book is a fabrication but not offering anything specific with support to counter the book's claims.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 04:45 PM
 
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oh sweet irony.

you're whining that the book is a fabrication but not offering anything specific with support to counter the book's claims.
Has anybody denied saying anything quoted in the book?
 
Old 01-07-2018, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Exactly. Wolff will be invited all over the country to speak and it looks like he has the inside track on the first movie.
Correction - he'll be invited all over the world.
 
Old 01-07-2018, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Fabrications? Ummm.

There were interesting/trivial parts.

Like Trump is totally bald (except fringes around the back and sides) and the contortions he goes thru combing his remaining hair, spraying it afterwards to keep everything in place with stuff that turns color on him.

He throws his shirts on the floor, won't let staff pick them up.

A real puzzle, he changes sheets on his bed himself, that was strange.
Holdover habit from his military school days?
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