Democrats in high-tax states plot to get around new tax law (revolution, Florida)

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

More people left NJ in 2016 than any other state

Later, Jersey! Why people are leaving the Garden State in droves

Recent college grads are leaving N.J. in record numbers. Here's why. | NJ.com

N.J. still tops list of states losing residents

https://www.citylab.com/life/2017/11...jersey/546785/

They had a net population increase in both 2016 and 2017

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

if NY is sooo concerned about double taxing its people, then maybe they should eliminate the state income tax...after all THEY are the ONES that are double taxing the people

Then I guess all states should eliminate state income tax, right? How about getting rid of property tax too..and that pesky sales tax that's just another liberal attack on the middle class, right?

[tom1944]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

They had a net population increase in both 2016 and 2017

NJ percentage increase was higher than 17 other States

[IDoPhysicsPhD]

Originally Posted by slo1318

New Jersey property tax is the worst in the nation, they need real tax reform. Now they have too

Looks like they are. They are giving residents a way to pay less in real estate taxes.

[Mr. Zero]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

More people left NJ in 2016 than any other state

Later, Jersey! Why people are leaving the Garden State in droves

Recent college grads are leaving N.J. in record numbers. Here's why. | NJ.com

N.J. still tops list of states losing residents

https://www.citylab.com/life/2017/11...jersey/546785/

Most of those articles are based on a single survey of customers using one moving company... not a particularly good sample.

The data are based on household moves handled by United Van Lines within the 48 contiguous states and Washington, D.C.

For five straight years, a study by United Van Lines says that New Jersey is the state most abandoned in all of the country

The Garden State placed first as the "most-moved-from" state in the United Van Lines 40th Annual National Movers Study, released Tuesday.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

They had a net population increase in both 2016 and 2017

they had a SMALLER increase than most states

NJ actually lost when you look at the over all population increase


Virginia july 2017 8,470,020......july 2016 8,411,808 increase of 59k

Georgia july 2017 10,429,379.....july 2016 10,310,371 increase of 119k

North Carolina july 2017 10,273,419....july 2016 10,146,788 increase of 127k

New Jersy july 2017 9,005,644....july 2016 8,944,469 increase of 61k

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...C,NJ/PST045217

NJ had an increase of HALF of GA and NC

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Then I guess all states should eliminate state income tax, right? How about getting rid of property tax too..and that pesky sales tax that's just another liberal attack on the middle class, right?

well New Hampshire doesn't tax income or have a sales tax.....

guess you aren't concerned that there are states that can and do make ends meet with out killing their population

[IDoPhysicsPhD]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

well New Hampshire doesn't tax income or have a sales tax.....

guess you aren't concerned that there are states that can and do make ends meet with out killing their population

Clearly you're not familiar with what you're talking about.

First, New Hampshire does have income tax. It just doesn't apply to earned income.

Second, it also has a state real estate tax (which NJ does not).

Finally, it ranks 3rd out of 50 of taxing its population the highest.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

well New Hampshire doesn't tax income or have a sales tax.....
guess you aren't concerned that there are states that can and do make ends meet with out killing their population

They have other taxes, like the 3rd highest property tax in the nation and a 5% tax on interests and dividends, and an 8.5% tax is assessed on income from conducting business activity within the State of New Hampshire. Tax revenue per capita is $4,649, the US average is $4883 - so what exactly is your point?

[nicet4]

Originally Posted by Uncle Bully

These lefties aren't the rich, they are upper middle class to lower upper class. Enough wealth to feel superior to their flyover countrymen but not enough to really join "the club". Contempt for those "beneath" them and envy for those above is what motivates them. But no, they are not supposed to pay higher taxes, "others" are.

But they are superior because they live in a state that has the highest poverty rates not to mention homelessness. This makes them superior to us.

From Politifact: TRUE: California has the nation’s highest poverty rate, when factoring in cost-of-living
By Chris Nichols on Friday, January 20th, 2017 at 3:11 p.m.

States with high and low homeless rates are all over the country. The highest rates of homelessness among states are in Hawaii (465 per 100,000), followed by New York (399) and California (367). You can access the HUD estimations here.

I get sick and tired hearing the BS about the 6th largest economy in the world blah, blah.