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Old 01-06-2018, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by ColoradoOnMyMind View Post
Poor rich libs. Do as I say not as I do
You realize it’s the middle class people who will be affected? But sure keep dreaming that only the rich pay taxes or own houses.

 
Old 01-06-2018, 05:58 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You realize it’s the middle class people who will be effected? But sure keep dreaming that only the rich pay taxes or own houses.
Why shouldn't the middle class have to pay the Federal income tax they owe?
 
Old 01-06-2018, 06:19 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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So the democrats who complain about tax loopholes used by Trump are working on loopholes to avoid paying taxes?
But I thought paying taxes is everyone's civic duty?
 
Old 01-06-2018, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Why shouldn't the middle class have to pay the Federal income tax they owe?
Well when you buy a house in a housing market that has high housing values living under the assumption that your taxes would be staying relatively the same is a crappy deal. Trump is known for crappy deals though. Not only that, but the bill does nothing to address the national deficit.
 
Old 01-06-2018, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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So the democrats who complain about tax loopholes used by Trump are working on loopholes to avoid paying taxes?
But I thought paying taxes is everyone's civic duty?
it's about a tax increase. SALT deductions have been around for more than a century and for our country that is a pretty long time.
 
Old 01-06-2018, 06:39 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So the democrats who complain about tax loopholes used by Trump are working on loopholes to avoid paying taxes?
Yep. They've been caught being hypocrites. Anyone surprised?
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But I thought paying taxes is everyone's civic duty?
It is until it's the left who actually has to pay.
 
Old 01-06-2018, 06:42 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Well when you buy a house in a housing market that has high housing values living under the assumption that your taxes would be staying relatively the same is a crappy deal.
Why would anyone foolishly make that assumption? Both FICA and Federal Income Tax rates have fluctuated. It's idiotic to assume the tax code would remain the same forever.
 
Old 01-06-2018, 06:45 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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it's about a tax increase. SALT deductions have been around for more than a century and for our country that is a pretty long time.
State and Local government taxing and spending has NOTHING to do with Federal taxing and spending. I'm surprised the disconnect between the two didn't come sooner, and that a $10,000 SALT deduction on Federal taxes is even still allowed.
 
Old 01-06-2018, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It is until it's the left who actually has to pay.
So, you are under the impression they didn't pay before You are all over the place being the Fare Share Warrior

If your arguments are correct, it can only mean they have been paying more than anyone, certainly more than those living in red states.

Is it too hard to admit that in your heart you have always been a flaming liberal.
 
Old 01-06-2018, 07:03 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So, you are under the impression they didn't pay before You are all over the place being the Fare Share Warrior
Just pay what you owe. What's so hard about that?
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