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Old 01-05-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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Originally Posted by stburr91 View Post
You are completely misinformed.

Hillary was not under investigation for using a private email server.

Hillary was under investigation for espionage.

It has always been a crime to store classified information in an unauthorized/non secure location.

Hillary's actions were intentional, but were without question grossly negligent, therefore a crime.

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Federal law allows government officials to use personal email so long as relevant documents are preserved for history."

The law was amended in late 2014 to require that personal emails be transferred to government servers within 20 days


Try harder, seriously. Like I said, most legal experts worth their weight in salt agree no intentional crime was committed.
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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I see the normal Trumpetts are frothing at the mouth over this even when there is nothing there. She will not be charged because she did nothing illegal. This investigation is nothing more than to take the heat off of Trump and his criminal administration.
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: United States
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Try harder, seriously. Like I said, most legal experts worth their weight in salt agree no intentional crime was committed.
I'll type it out slowly for you.

Hillary was never under investigation for using a private email server.

You cannot store classified information outside of a SCIF, period, full stop.

Hillary's server is not a SCIF, she violated the espionage act.

I'll say it again, say it with me.

Hillary was never under investigation for using a private email server.
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This is exactly what it looks like. Donald Trump using the Department of Justice to punish his election adversaries AND provide cover for the ongoing investigation into his treasonous and crooked family.
His 30% may be gullible but most of America and other world leaders are not.


Well, he could use the IRS, BLM, EPA and on and on......
But he's looking them in the eye through the legal system set up just for this instance and not backhanded through powerful agencies in an oppressive manner.
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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I see the normal Trumpetts are frothing at the mouth over this even when there is nothing there. She will not be charged because she did nothing illegal. This investigation is nothing more than to take the heat off of Trump and his criminal administration.


It's crazy, I know. Despite what most legal experts say, arm chair lawyers still seem to think they know more.
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Wasn't charged because she wasn't guilty of any crimes.
Total nonsense. She definitely committed crimes.

She wasn't charged during the Obama administration because the DOJ and FBI were giving her protection because both agencies were (and still are) totally politicized. It's plain as day. You just want to pretend they aren't politicized.
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
Looks like my dreams come true and yours end up being haunting nightmares.
I talk about Hillary and you want to talk about me. It is getting harder and harder to defend her isn't it.
How can they defend her?

Did she create a private email domain server, with the purpose being to handle all her official emails as the US Secretary of State? Yes.

Did she send and receive any classified email using her private email account? Yes.

Then she is guilty of gross negligence, for the mishandling of classified material.

It's a slam dunk case.
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Old 01-05-2018, 12:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by stburr91 View Post
I'll type it out slowly for you.

Hillary was never under investigation for using a private email server.

You cannot store classified of a SCIF, period, full stop.

No, but neither was it a crime if it wasn't intentional.

Period, full stop.




THAT is the crux of it all. Was there knowledgeable INTENT to commit a crime. To date, there has been ZERO evidence that shows that she intentionally tried to commit espionage or steal information from the government. This is why they have nothing else but.......let me say this slowly, negligence. Which, by definition, is merely failure to take proper care in doing something.
Negligence, despite being extreme, doesn't mean she set out to intentionally commit a crime of espionage.

But hey, if you have evidence of espionage intent, by all means, go after her.
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Old 01-05-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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I see the normal Trumpetts are frothing at the mouth over this even when there is nothing there. She will not be charged because she did nothing illegal. This investigation is nothing more than to take the heat off of Trump and his criminal administration.
Deleting 33,000 emails that were already under subpoena is a federal crime.
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Old 01-05-2018, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by stburr91 View Post
I'll type it out slowly for you.

Hillary was never under investigation for using a private email server.

You cannot store classified information outside of a SCIF, period, full stop.

Hillary's server is not a SCIF, she violated the espionage act.

I'll say it again, say it with me.

Hillary was never under investigation for using a private email server.
Not specifically, but by using her private email server to transmit and receive classified documents, she violated federal law:

18 U.S. Code Chapter 37 - ESPIONAGE AND CENSORSHIP § 793 (f).

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense,
(1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or

(2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy
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