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Old 01-06-2018, 06:08 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That's another matter, isn't it. If Hilary not only improperly stored and transmitted classified material, did she also commit more crimes by intentionally giving people unauthorized access?

Hilary cannot use the "oops, I was too freaking stupid, and didn't realize I was improperly handling classified material" excuses.

There have been other people in the past, have not been fully prosecuted, because they only mishandled a document or two, and it was determined that the material was never in any danger of falling into enemy hands. I know,a few people in the military who were found guilty of this. They lost their clearances, had to pay huge fines, and some lost a rank or two.

But Hilary repeatedly mishandled upwards of a hundred documents, allowed unauthorized people access, and stored documents in non-secure locations, and improperly destroyed some documents, over a four year period. It is very probable they were intercepted by enemy, foreign nation states.


Huma is going to jail for sure with Weiner having access and on an unsecure computer soliciting child porn.
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Old 01-06-2018, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Sounds good to me. I get nothing from defending Hillary. I say investigate away and bring charges if crimes were committed.

And do the same for Trump.
Agreed.

However, the difference here is we know Hilary committed a crime, we only think it's possible Trump could have, but we don't know.

1) People know what crime Hilary is accused of, improperly receiving, transmitting, handling, storing, and destroying classified material.

2) People don't know if Trump or his campaign colluded with Russians, the investigation is looking to see if any of the things people think Trump could have done, were actually ever done actually occurred.
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Old 01-07-2018, 12:46 PM
 
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You know what's funny...the left getting so worked up to try to avoid discussing the subject as the left is terrified to get more bad news so the left comes up with was used under Reagan. The insane and crazy attacks while it only shows how nuts the left is.

Any common sense person would be worried that anyone on the left of right can do what's Hillary did and so far gotten away with.

It seems this time it may not so easy to get away from this.

My guess is that Hillary will go down for not paying taxes like in the end Al Capone was charged and convicted for. Federal prison. She can join Blago!

OK repeating myself here, because you have been making claim after claim yet have not backed them up.



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This is all smoke to provide cover for trump but it is not working, the case is going forward, the charges are coming down the pipe and team trump is going to be pay for their treason.


IF I AM WRONG BENTLE, SHOW ME THE REAL WORLD EVIDENCE THAT WILL BUILD A CHARGEABLE OFFENSE .... (you won't cause it don't exist)
so, bentlebee, where is your PROOF.. lots of posts but no proof, no nothing...
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Old 01-07-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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so, bentlebee, where is your PROOF.. lots of posts but no proof, no nothing...
The list comey read would have me and anyone else in jail, fired, or having no clearance....possibly all 3....

Sorry, as I stated before, those that have a current SC/TS, are scratching their heads on how or why she still has any type of clearance....

Do you have a SC/TS? If not, you have no clue what those that do go through for training....
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Old 01-07-2018, 01:04 PM
 
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Trump chumps somehow think going after Clinton is going to save Trump. Investigate Clinton all you want, Trump is still in deep crap with the Mueller investigation.
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Old 01-07-2018, 01:46 PM
 
Location: United States
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Trump chumps somehow think going after Clinton is going to save Trump. Investigate Clinton all you want, Trump is still in deep crap with the Mueller investigation.
It's still too early to say for sure, but it is highly likely that Mueller's investigation is over, at least as it pertains to Trump.
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Old 01-07-2018, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Agreed.

However, the difference here is we know Hilary committed a crime, we only think it's possible Trump could have, but we don't know.

1) People know what crime Hilary is accused of, improperly receiving, transmitting, handling, storing, and destroying classified material.

2) People don't know if Trump or his campaign colluded with Russians, the investigation is looking to see if any of the things people think Trump could have done, were actually ever done actually occurred.
The whole email thing is absurd. These document were all the work product of the State Dept. Clinton was the source for any classification of documents in the State Dept. If Clinton says they were not classified they were not classified. Comey has merely the opinion of other agencies that they were classified. Has no bearing on State Dept documents.

As to the deleted documents there are two stories. Basically Clinton's lawyers decided to delete the initial batch after the lawyers classsified them as private and Clinton said she had no use for them. The second set were deleted by a tech at the server company after he was told to protect them. He did so because he had received a prior directive months before to change the time for which emails were maintained but had not done so. He was simply trying to cover his backside for a failure on his part. In neither case did Clinton direct destruction of the ewmails.
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Old 01-07-2018, 02:20 PM
 
Location: United States
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The whole email thing is absurd. These document were all the work product of the State Dept. Clinton was the source for any classification of documents in the State Dept. If Clinton says they were not classified they were not classified. Comey has merely the opinion of other agencies that they were classified. Has no bearing on State Dept documents.

As to the deleted documents there are two stories. Basically Clinton's lawyers decided to delete the initial batch after the lawyers classsified them as private and Clinton said she had no use for them. The second set were deleted by a tech at the server company after he was told to protect them. He did so because he had received a prior directive months before to change the time for which emails were maintained but had not done so. He was simply trying to cover his backside for a failure on his part. In neither case did Clinton direct destruction of the ewmails.
You have a long history of putting out false information on this issue, you are well know for that.

There was 100+ emails that were confirmed to be classified at the time Hillary sent, or recieved the emails.

Second, Hillary, and her lawyer did not have the authority to delete those emails, they needed to be turned over to the State Department, and they would make the determination if they were government records.
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Old 01-07-2018, 02:39 PM
 
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Trump chumps somehow think going after Clinton is going to save Trump. Investigate Clinton all you want, Trump is still in deep crap with the Mueller investigation.
Not the point about clinton, but you know this....
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Old 01-07-2018, 02:40 PM
 
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Why Hillary Clinton Deleted 33,000 Emails as Secretary of State - ABC News

"[Clinton] then was asked by her lawyers at the end, 'Do you want us to keep the personal emails?' And she said, 'I have no use for them anymore.' It's then that they issued the direction that the technical people delete them," Comey told lawmakers.

In total, more than 30,000 emails were deleted "because they were personal and private about matters that I believed were within the scope of my personal privacy,"

"They had nothing to do with work," Clinton added. "I didn't see any reason to keep them ... no one wants their personal emails made public, and I think most people understand that and respect that privacy."

However, after a year-long investigation, the FBI recovered more than 17,000 emails that had been deleted or otherwise not turned over to the State Department, and many of them were work-related, the FBI has said.

So she told her lawyers she didn't need them. Therefore, and only because of that, they were deleted.

Furthermore, those emails were under subpoena. Deleting ANY of them is a crime. Period.

Now you've been educated.

You're welcome.
I think yes, government officials Deleting public records without upper level authorization is investigateable. Then....did she benefit in ANY way from the deletions? Was she trying to cover something up? Did she send our nuclear codes to a foreign enemy?

Did her staffer know something was nt right and intentionally not follow through so as to not at least be accessory to a crime?


OR is Hillary just lame ass and disorganized and didn't care specifically what could be attached to emails within emails. OR does she really have that big of a private life to fill up that many emails and need access to any available server?

ORRRRR is it a coverup of evidence of Hillary s secret meetings with russian opperatives to set up losing the election before and after Candidate Trump and company s meetings about russian child adoptions?
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