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Interesting that this protest is coming from French women. Hard to believe, really. So will the response from the Hollywood SJW culture be to discuss the objections rationally? Or will it be to personally attack Catherine Deneuve and engage in a personal smear campaign? What's the over under?
This is a very delicate topic, but it does deserve consideration. I think very very few (if any at all) women enjoy actually being raped, but rape is a pervasive fantasy in pornography/romance literature marketed for women.
Every Harlequin romance novel I've ever read (used to read them in High School) has a rape scene as the first sexual encounter between the couple in the story. Literally every.single.one.
How can you explain the popularity of 50 Shades of Grey if you can't entertain the truth that in fantasy, many women are attracted to the idea of rape.
It's awful to say, I know, but it does create confusion when you discuss sexual violence against women.
This is a very delicate topic, but it does deserve consideration. I think very very few (if any at all) women enjoy actually being raped, but rape is a pervasive fantasy in pornography/romance literature marketed for women.
Every Harlequin romance novel I've ever read (used to read them in High School) has a rape scene as the first sexual encounter between the couple in the story. Literally every.single.one.
How can you explain the popularity of 50 Shades of Grey if you can't entertain the truth that in fantasy, many women are attracted to the idea of rape.
It's awful to say, I know, but it does create confusion when you discuss sexual violence against women.
Rape is non-consensual. Period. You think it's okay if a women doens't consent, it's okay to rape her?
"I don't know a woman alive who hasn't had somebody say or do something that was inappropriate at best and aggressive at worst."
That is how it is. Every woman alive, and very likely every man, child and senior, has experienced rude, inappropriate and aggressive behavior from someone at some time. Today, public humiliation and loss of job is how society responds to these behaviors regardless of whether they occurred today, a year ago, or several decades ago. Is that the most productive response? As something that has been a societal norm from the beginning of time, is it not possible to work constructively with the offenders to promote positive change and thereby set the example for societal change?
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I think this quote from your link says it all:
"I don't know a woman alive who hasn't had somebody say or do something that was inappropriate at best and aggressive at worst."
That is how it is. Every woman alive, and very likely every man, child and senior, has experienced rude, inappropriate and aggressive behavior from someone at some time. Today, public humiliation and loss of job is how society responds to these behaviors regardless of whether they occurred today, a year ago, or several decades ago. Is that the most productive response? As something that has been a societal norm from the beginning of time, is it not possible to work constructively with the offenders to promote positive change and thereby set the example for societal change?
Interesting.
I think, though, we can separate out random aggressions (and yes, everyone has experienced someone treating them with hostility or aggression, or even downright physically attacking them) with a systemic culture of sexual harassment of women in certain professions. Modeling and acting/show business specifically. The "casting couch" is a very real thing, and is really a different thing from rude, inappropriate and aggressive behavior perpetrated on people at random.
It does seem to be getting better - but it's surprising to me the pervasiveness - and how it was accepted - that many women starting out who had no power had to have sex with multiple men to break in to show business.
Those women were the beginning of the #metoo movement, but then it kind of became any woman who had ever experienced inappropriate sexual conduct fell under the #metoo. The two problems are different, in my opinion.
Dude, not only is there a bit of friction between the English and the French, it's the dailymail, lol. The poster's occupation has nothing to do with the argument btw.
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