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View Poll Results: Which states have the highest Gun related death rates?
Those with the most restrictive gun laws. 37 55.22%
Those with the least restrictive gun laws. 30 44.78%
Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-15-2018, 05:15 PM
 
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No, they are not. Maybe by total count, but not per capita. Cities are about 20% less dangerous.

Study Shows That Cities Are Safer Than Rural Areas, Despite Crime | TIME.com
Again, you post an article that directly refutes your argument.

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Now it’s true that the risk of homicide is greater in big cities than it is in the countryside.
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Old 03-15-2018, 05:17 PM
 
Location: SC
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Again, you post an article that directly refutes your argument.
No, that's because YOU want to make it about homicide. I am and have from the beginning been talking about death.

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You posted that article to dispute that Vermont was one of the safest states.
How is middle of the pack the safest?
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Old 03-15-2018, 06:09 PM
 
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Why are you asking this as a poll, as if it's a matter of opinion? Whatever answer exists would be a statistical fact. Are you one of those Republicans who pretends facts don't exist?
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Old 03-15-2018, 06:24 PM
 
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MA has some of the toughest laws and the lowest murder rate. Period. So liberal policies and careful gun checks obviously work. Some other states are 300% higher.

I really wonder why people keep asking question with such obvious answers.
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Old 03-15-2018, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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"Firearm deaths are significantly lower in states with stricter gun control legislation. Though the sample sizes are small, we find substantial negative correlations between firearm deaths and states that ban assault weapons, require trigger locks, and mandate safe storage requirements for guns."

https://www.theatlantic.com/national...-deaths/69354/
Zero correlation between state homicide rate and state gun laws

it seems to me that the key question should focus on state total homicide rates, or perhaps (for reasons I describe below) total intentional homicide plus accidental gun death rates. And it turns out that there is essentially zero correlation between these numbers and state gun laws.
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Old 03-15-2018, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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MA has some of the toughest laws and the lowest murder rate. Period. So liberal policies and careful gun checks obviously work. Some other states are 300% higher.

I really wonder why people keep asking question with such obvious answers.
I'm sure you do, you've made up your mind and refuse to see anything that doesn't support your bias. New Hampshire has very loose gun laws and the lowest murder rate in the country. So clearly conservative gun policies obviously work. I wonder why people keep asking questions with such obvious answers.
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Old 03-15-2018, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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Restricting guns doesn't lower the murder rate. There are many different methods people have used to slaughter each other throughout history.
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Old 03-16-2018, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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MA has some of the toughest laws and the lowest murder rate. Period. So liberal policies and careful gun checks obviously work. Some other states are 300% higher.

I really wonder why people keep asking question with such obvious answers.
Actually your opening sentence is provably false. By murder rate New Hampshire, Hawaii, Maine and Utah have lower murder rates.

New Hampshire, Maine and Utah would be considered more gun friendly states, Hawai'i more restrictive.

Maybe you don't mean murder, but your claim is untrue. Indeed by homicide rates alone you could not separate states that are more or less restrictive by gun control laws.
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Old 03-16-2018, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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I would prefer they were able to get the mental help they needed.
Me too.
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Old 03-16-2018, 09:43 AM
 
Location: WMHT
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Post New Hampshire has the lowest homicide rate in the USA, lower rate per capita than Canada

Why focus on "gun related death" rates? Seems like OP has an ax to grind


Maine, Vermont & New Hampshire have among the lowest overall violence and violent crime rate in North America, but firearms suicides put them high in the ranking of "gun related death" rates. That doesn't change the fact that homicides are vanishingly low in these states; To come up with a homicide count in my town not measured in fractions, you'd have to go to homicides per decade just to get the value up to '1'.

Choose your criteria carefully and you can get whatever preordained results your funding source wants to see published.
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