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Why would you even mention recieving financial aid? That would never even cross my mind to include it in a job application.
They specifically ask on the application if you received a Pell Grant for college, as well as asking "why would you want to work with low-income students?" as a supplementary question.
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Was this for the exact same job posting? Your first email seems to indicate that they filled the forst position your applied to or at least had already selected which applicants to interview. It doesn't seem likely that the same job would still be posted 2 weeks later.
Yep, exact same job posting. Proving they were outright lying in their email to me when they said they "went with a different candidate more suited to the position." I already knew that was a lie though because this is for an Associate Teaching "Corps", which means there are multiple openings.
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Did you specify your gender and race or was an assumption to be made by the name? I did not think it was legal to ask questions related to race or gender on applications. I'm not sure why one would specify on a resume.
Both. I specified it in both cover letters, but it was also asked, and "race" was asked twice on the actual application.
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Did you confront them. It would be interesting to hear what they say about it.
Not yet, but I'm super tempted to. I just don't want to get into any legal trouble myself for submitting a fake application.
For what it's worth, I applied for a State of MI job a few years ago and was selected for an interview and eventually hired. After working for a while my boss and I discussed the hiring practice. She told me they had 60+ qualified applicants and they simply pulled five people out for interviews. It was just luck of the draw.
If this isn't racism against white people, I don't know what is. Thoughts?
Maybe the admissions director is an evangelistic Christian. So many reasons....
transgender
low-income
leftist (Berkeley).
Needed "Welfare".
These are all code words (dog whistles) for anyone of conservative bent and/or evangelist, etc.
Americorp (believe me, I worked with them and my daughter spent a year there - many of the programs are not exactly good experience).
Your example is, unfortunately, only an anecdote. Can you really doubt that they interviewed dozens of people and may have received 100's of applications??
For what it's worth, I applied for a State of MI job a few years ago and was selected for an interview and eventually hired. After working for a while my boss and I discussed the hiring practice. She told me they had 60+ qualified applicants and they simply pulled five people out for interviews. It was just luck of the draw.
Not everything has a nefarious plot behind it.
Not everything does, but this seems like the clearest example I've ever seen...
Maybe, for the hell of it, I'll submit three more applications to this racist program. Another one from a white applicant with tons of experience and academic achievements, another from a black person with comparatively less, one from a Hispanic person with less, etc, and see what happens.
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Maybe the admissions director is an evangelistic Christian. So many reasons....
transgender
low-income
leftist (Berkeley).
Needed "Welfare".
These are all code words (dog whistles) for anyone of conservative bent and/or evangelist, etc.
True, but this organization is itself far more leftist than I am! I'm right-leaning myself, and this org has "social justice warrior" written all over it, so I kind of doubt that the admissions director is an evangelistic conservative Christian. It's possible, absolutely, but very very doubtful.
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Americorp (believe me, I worked with them and my daughter spent a year there - many of the programs are not exactly good experience).
I've loved my experience with Jumpstart, but yeah, I'm sure not all AmeriCorps programs are just as good.
I would think first of your "transgender" status prior to racial discrimination. The "transgender" label comes with many ignorant presumptions. Presumptions that many non- specialists in the mental health profession still hold today...ie..
Mental instability, sexual confusion, sexual promiscuity, homosexuality, sexual perversion, pedophilia, etc......
BTW
American Psychology is Not unified in its conclusive assessment of Transgender people. Sure they have the little (DSM 5) book to serve as a general guideline, but how they personally interpret your specific condition quite often remains completely within their domain.
I would think first of your "transgender" status prior to racial discrimination. The "transgender" label comes with many ignorant presumptions. Presumptions that many non- specialists in the mental health profession still hold today...ie..
Mental instability, sexual confusion, sexual promiscuity, homosexuality, sexual perversion, pedophilia, etc......
Ehhhh...could be, but again, I really doubt it since this org is extremely liberal and SJW-ish. And especially since everything else in my application is resoundingly "sane" and has proven that I've been successfully and long-term employed by multiple companies. Not ruling it out, but it's not my first guess. I personally thought that I'd be much much more likely to get the job by saying I'm trans.
After all, if I was a CIS white male...heaven forbid I want to work with low-income students of color!
This is sad, but common. I believe the OP 100%. I had an similar experience with this. I worked for a black man once. All the employees (in the specific specialized job category) were white, but the employer was so intent on hiring a black person that when he finally got a resume that had membership in a black organization listed in the “extra” section, he called up the applicant and hired him sight-unseen. A few days later the guy shows up for the first day of work. You guessed it...he was white and only joined the black organization to increase his chances of being called for a job.
Ehhhh...could be, but again, I really doubt it since this org is extremely liberal and SJW-ish. And especially since everything else in my application is resoundingly "sane" and has proven that I've been successfully and long-term employed by multiple companies. Not ruling it out, but it's not my first guess. I personally thought that I'd be much much more likely to get the job by saying I'm trans.
After all, if I was a CIS white male...heaven forbid I want to work with low-income students of color!
Many cis-white males opt to teach urban youth for a variety of reasons. Most reasons tend not to be altruistic or of liberal proclivity.
You must bear in mind that any hint of possible misalignment with sex or gender when working with children is still often frowned upon by many educational administrators.
Do you really think that an African-American transperson would be preferred to a white cis-male?
I would have leaned to the "fake" guy too... and not because of some imaginary color issues either
It was for an associate teacher position
white resume: 3 years jumpstart, random summer camp jobs, random volunteer teaching, 10+ years of "freelancing"
black resume: 2 years of jump start and 1 summer camp
the "white" resume, looks like he is 13+ years out of college, and has been job hopping around and not building any real skills
the "black" resume, looks like he is fresh out of college, has "some" work experience, and is ready to be trained as an associate teacher
right, this is an associate teacher, they want new people to train, not someone that has a track record of job hopping and an outdated degree that is 13+ years old in which he hasn't build his way up to become at least an assistant professor yet if not better
you know for an "experiment", it's a pretty lousy one when you change EVERY SINGLE VARIABLE, then you claim it was one variable that changed the results
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They also specify: "When completing your application, please pay careful attention to spelling and grammar throughout the entire application process. Careless errors may disqualify you for a position in our Network."
HAHA, spelling/grammar/minor errors can always be overlooked because "may" is only conditional on "how much they feel like enforcing it". No different than if you are speeding, you MAY get a ticket, or you MAY get a warning
you know for an "experiment", it's a pretty lousy one when you change EVERY SINGLE VARIABLE, then you claim it was one variable that changed the results
This is what I was thinking as well. It was a poorly done experiment.
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