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Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by lifeexplorer
The right to private property IS absolute. For you to say it's not, you advocate violence against people who earned their property legally as that's the only way to get other people's property.
Just think about how despicable this is - you advocate taking other people's property at gunpoint. In a moral person's mind, it's armed robbery, plain and simple. What's moral about armed robbery?
If the government is not regulating the business and is only focusing on national security and enforcing the law, what advantage anybody may have to bride them government?
The reason that poor people remain poor because 1) they make poor decisions for themselves, and 2) government regulations.
Asians and Jewish are two groups of people focusing on education and they are the two most wealthy groups in America.
Government regulations make it impossible for the poor people to get ahead. Like minimum wage, who is going to hire the inexperienced or uneducated poor people who can't produce more value than the minimum wage? How can the poor people wade through the monstrosity of the laws and pay all the fees just to be in compliance?
No one's being robbed at gunpoint, no one's property is being taken, this is all made up due to idealistic tunnel vision with no nuance for reality
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by lifeexplorer
Income, property and inheritance taxes are precisely people being robbed at gunpoint.
No they aren't, they are payment for services rendered. Your public sector workers don't work for free, otherwise, feel free to try to build your own road, build a school house, deputize yourself sheriff of your block, put out your own fires, issue your own drivers license, etc (I hope you see where I am going with this, but probably not)
The only people who get a gun pointed at them are ones who refuse to pay, and unlike the heroes you consider them to be, they are in actuality the equivalent of a "dine and dash-er", want the benefits of government, but don't want to pay for it!
No they aren't, they are payment for services rendered. Your public sector workers don't work for free, otherwise, feel free to try to build your own road, build a school house, deputize yourself sheriff of your block, put out your own fires, issue your own drivers license, etc (I hope you see where I am going with this, but probably not)
The only people who get a gun pointed at them are ones who refuse to pay, and unlike the heroes you consider them to be, they are in actuality the equivalent of a "dine and dash-er", want the benefits of government, but don't want to pay for it!
Just like a good robber would say:"Give up your money and nobody will get hurt!"
What services rendered? What about those who don't pay income, property or inheritance tax? What's their moral obligation to the "service rendered"?
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Location: Dallas, TX
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Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220
No they aren't, they are payment for services rendered. Your public sector workers don't work for free, otherwise, feel free to try to build your own road, build a school house, deputize yourself sheriff of your block, put out your own fires, issue your own drivers license, etc (I hope you see where I am going with this, but probably not)
The only people who get a gun pointed at them are ones who refuse to pay, and unlike the heroes you consider them to be, they are in actuality the equivalent of a "dine and dash-er", want the benefits of government, but don't want to pay for it!
I suppose if I truly love freedom, I should submit formal notices to City Hall, Dallas County, Austin, and Washington DC as appropriate for each governing entity, declare my property and fully independent and completely sovereign nation. Naturally I would renounce citizenship of all said jurisdictions. My nation will be that of [my Surname]ia.
Seriously, if I'm to agree with lifeexplorers claims, declaring yourself a one-person and one-lot nation is the necessary outcome of what he proposes (or if you're lucky enough to own the following, farmland,ranchland, etc. large enough to be self-sufficient in food).
Even assuming this wild speculation does come to pass, it would turn the land formerly known as the USA into hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of independent countries warring with each other. There's a reason the 19th Century German and Italian mini-nations united.
You are the one who made the claim that Democratic Socialism is evil. Can you support that with facts, or not?
I can’t find one thing about socialism is not evil.
If you can, please name one.
It looks like you can’t either.
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