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Old 03-27-2018, 11:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Beach Sportsfan View Post
Hmmm I can think of so called adults in public office that could also use a good tune up. But yet here they are elected to office and supported by many on these boards


Yes, both on the left and right....


And a good tune up means articulating your argument/discussion....

 
Old 03-27-2018, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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If they became illegal, most Americans are law abiding and would hand over their guns if that was ever mandated.

A fringe would resist/fight back.
In New York, and Connecticut people were mandated to register their semi automatic rifles. There was about a 10% compliance to the law.
 
Old 03-27-2018, 11:12 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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If they became illegal, most Americans are law abiding and would hand over their guns if that was ever mandated.

A fringe would resist/fight back.
Oh, how very wrong you are. Look at how that turned out in blue state NY, when only registration was required. They didn't even have to turn them in.

Out of an estimated 1 million semi-automatic firearms within the state of NY that were required to be registered under the new law, only 44,000 were registered. That's a compliance rate of only 4.4%.

Massive noncompliance with SAFE Act:
https://hudsonvalleyone.com/2016/07/...with-safe-act/
 
Old 03-27-2018, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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In New York, and Connecticut people were mandated to register their semi automatic rifles. There was about a 10% compliance to the law.
Imagine the microscopic compliance rate in "flyover country".
 
Old 03-27-2018, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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One is not a beta male if one has this irrational fear towards a gun. Guns are not for everybody.

But one is absolutely a beta male if he believes everybody does not deserve to have an AR-15 simply because he is afraid of it.

No one likes a bully and bullies are beta males.
 
Old 03-27-2018, 11:40 AM
 
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You left out rejected by 4 colleges to which he applied, UCLA, UCSD, UCSB, and UC Irvine. Seems the adults at the Admissions Offices don't like him and his attitude, either.

Real action? Think very carefully about how strict control has worked out... Prohibition? Generated organized crime activity, and people still drank alcohol. Convicted felons are prohibited from buying/possessing guns. They have them anyway. WHY? Criminals don't obey laws. Same reason there's a HUGE problem with BOTH illegal and prescription drug use/addiction in the U.S. Opioids, even legal prescriptions, are very strictly controlled. How's that working out? Solve the drug abuse/addiction problem, yet? Or is it only getting worse?

See what I mean?

Although he's clearly passionate about the issue, David Hogg is disliked because he's demanding an ineffective solution to the problem. He's not using critical thinking skills, or learning from how strict controls on substances/items have always failed in the past. A lot of us have noticed he's irrationally pushing in the wrong direction, and so have the colleges that have rejected him.
What do college admissions have to do with anything? And how could you possibly know why he was rejected? And how would people know he was even rejected? This seems like something right-wing sites are spreading, along with fake yearbook photos and Emma Gonzalez tearing up the Constitution. In any case, people applying to multiple schools are often rejected by at least some of them. This is a normal occurrence. You're trying too hard to find fault with this kid, and it's obvious.

So criminals don't obey laws... I have seen this argument made many, many times. That is an argument for having no laws at all. Is that what you're saying? That laws aren't followed by the people who break them, so lets not waste any time having any?

No, I don't, actually.

No, he's disliked because he threatens the status quo. He's hardly the first person in such a position that was trashed for taking a stand, and he's not going to be the last.
 
Old 03-27-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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Its the anti-gun nuts that cant get it through their thick heads that the true gun nuts are those doing the shootings, the other 99.9999999% of legal gun owners who never have, and never will do anything illegal are not the problem, and calling them names on a regular basis will NOT help your cause.

Cruz was a legal gun owner. Most of the people who commit mass murder with guns got them from legal gun owners or purchased them legally. Most laws aren't designed for everyone, anyway. There are laws against rape and murder even though most people will never do either.

"Responsible gun owners" have had years to come to the table with solutions. Instead, they only offer "thoughts and prayers" and throwing yet more guns into every situation. That is NOT rational, and until they become so, yeah... gun nut fits.
 
Old 03-27-2018, 11:49 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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There's 110,000,000+ million rifles in America. Of those around 30 or 40 million (no one knows the exact number) are modern sporting rifles(ARs,AKs, etc).

No one is turning in their rifles or 30 round mags. Not going to happen.

Hogg and his ignorant 17 and 18 year old friends are clueless and are becoming America's top gun salesmen. I've made several calls to local gunstores and ARs are once again quadrupling in sales in some of the stores.



Example in CT. Back around 2014 the state wanted all "assault weapons" registered and all high cap. Mags. Declared
Of the estimated 370,000 rifles only 50,000 were brought for registration. That's 13% compliance. Of the estimated 1 million High cap. Mags. Only 40,000 were declared. That's 4% compliance. And this is in Libby CT.

Anti-gunners efforts are futile.

Actually, it is the .223, 5.56 & .308 ammunition that has become the hot seller.
I cannot find it on the shelves of the local sporting goods store, once again.
Having to mail order in bulk at a little added cost and wait time.


I for one am happy, these insane immature mental cases, have used their liberty and chosen to disarm for the remainder of their lives. They have displayed the lack of self control and can be brainwashed quick, using emotions and denying them facts.
 
Old 03-27-2018, 11:50 AM
 
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Why does it have to "beating him up"? Why is the left always thinking violence?

If you cannot articulate your argument/discussion without cursing every other word, then you really have no clue (I my mind) what you are even talking about. Cursing like that, shows you are an immature little brat that thinks he is cool because he's calling out his F'n parents....

Please, you definitely implied it with the "needs something else done" comment.

It shows more about you that you're more concerned with some curse words than his point that kids, among many others, are dying because of America's refusal to address its gun problem. Oh no, bad words! Give me a break.
 
Old 03-27-2018, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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So criminals don't obey laws... I have seen this argument made many, many times. That is an argument for having no laws at all. Is that what you're saying? That laws aren't followed by the people who break them, so lets not waste any time having any?
No its not. It is an argument against enacting yet more laws, when there are already thousands of gun laws, and laws against murder, etc on the books already. More laws will only affect the law abiding. ENFORCE THE EXISTING myriad of laws.

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No, he's disliked because he threatens the status quo. He's hardly the first person in such a position that was trashed for taking a stand, and he's not going to be the last.
He is disliked because he is IGNORANT of guns, existing gun laws, and wants to take rights away from the law abiding that won't protect school students anymore than what we already have.
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