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Old 03-26-2018, 01:40 PM
 
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And Trump supports seem to think bashing HRC who won't run and wasn't indicted in Benghazi investigations will continue to deflect/protect Trump from any mistakes, legal or otherwise, he made and will make...
Don't blame critics of Hillary. Blame her for never shutting up and blame those who are supporters of her and are hypocrites.
That is right, they see everything wrong with Trump, and nothing wrong with Hillary. They call Trump a liar, but Hillary has probably lied more than any other politician in history.
More broadly, they excuse everyone on their team (what has happened to Debbie Wasserman Shultz for example), but want to vilify everyone on the opposing team.

So look in the mirror before you go casting stones.

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Old 03-26-2018, 01:43 PM
 
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Nobody in politics has lied more than Trump. He's the clear winner here by a long shot.

If he's keeping up his average, he's told half a dozen today.
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Old 03-26-2018, 01:45 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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But you do enjoy your pay raise, don't you?
And if you run a business, you probably enjoy the benefit of some reduction in paperwork and regulation, or perhaps you enjoy the influx of new customers who now have a job.

So it ain't all bad.
I'm retired so no pay raise for me. And the republicans (I'm an independent, by the way) have always portrayed themselves as the party of fiscal discipline, balanced budgets, etc. And now they will pile on more debt that will be a long term drag on the economy. The tax cuts might give a short term boost to the economy but the idea that they will pay for themselves is highly questionable, in my opinion. Whatever happened to the "deficit hawks" in the republican party?
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Old 03-26-2018, 01:48 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I'd say his poll numbers but they were never up to begin with. I guess his administration is tumbling. close to 50% turnover. His accomplishments leave a lot to be desired. One tax giveaway to the rich will be his only "accomplishment".


If the election were held today, Trump would beat Hillary by a wider margin, now that the Democrats have pulled their masks off and crapped in them.
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Old 03-26-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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No wonder she's whoring herself out on paid interviews...all her fu kmoney clearly has gone up her nose.
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Old 03-26-2018, 02:23 PM
 
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Nothing. Just stand back and watch Trump bring himself down.

And that doesn't mean it has to end in impeachment. He's so dysfunctional his administration will never accomplish anything again. There is no doubt in my mind he will go down as the worst President in America's first 250 years.
Here you have it. With the liberal minnions in media, this is leftist self defeatism at its most candid.
This was Kerrys whole campaign in 2004. Anybody but Bush. Absolve Congress particularly Kerry and Edwards who both voted for the Iraq war and as chair and former chair of senate intel committee long before W was even governor of Texas, were more involved and responsible for the contents of the Iraq NIE than Bush could be... for any responsibility.
Actively work to tank that war by fomenting insurgency when Kerry ally Joe Wilson fabricates a story and goes public with it that Cheney was told Saddam disarmed....
Then have the media report the war as Bushes quagmire that was Americas policy they ruined.
And tell America their candidate could rescue us all from it.
A congressional investigation reveals Joe Wilson lied and the next day Kerry fires his foreign policy advisor who insiders predicted would be secretary of state. Who happened to be the same Joe Wilson.
Obviously this conspiracy of a CIA employee, a state dept employee, and a senator with presidential aspirations, to ruin US policy to his benefit, killing thousands of soldiers ultimately, goes unreported. Instead it is shifted to a VP who never got his answer about Yellowcake, and beaten to death until its he said she said about when an underling had a conversation. With someone who knew a lot more about it than he did. See the amicus curae filed by the media on behalf of Judith Miller. Outrageous they werent reporting news but creating history.

Yes thats how that went down in 2004 and you can dissect my claims but facts will destroy you. I have 20 years of bookmarks and most of them still work.

So now you want to obstruct anything Trump could do to MAGA just so you can gloat at Americas continued despair.

Some of us are paying attention and while revenge would be sweet we do not have the stomach to play your game when a D is in the white house.

Liberals control the media and through educational institutions largely include the scholarly machine which writes the history books. Yet those adept at gleaning facts amongst the spin can come to more enlightened conclusions such as Bill Clinton being the most destructive President in modern US history. His policies on Iraq, disarment, UNMOVIC, and inaction on Al Qaeda, directly invited 9/11. A republican president would never have stood by and let the UN and EU officials conspire with Saddam and cause the humanitarian nightmare on the Iraqis that became the raison d'etre for 9/11. Indeed Bush made public his intent to rectify it when elected.
Clintons well documented collusion with chinese nationals, accepting millions in contributions and cash for his mounting legal bills, coincided with a consistent bizarre series of commerce dept programs and policies like trade junkets and waivers of technology transfers that facilitated chinese theft of our manufacturing knowledge and destroyed americas economy for an estimated half century into the future. Chinagate, bernard schwartz, loral, mcdonnell douglas.... you use the google the facts were there mostly buried by the liberal minnions now.
Some of us are paying attention indeed and if it werent for our love for the country would probably have quietly put an end to this self defeatist crap a long time ago. In the middle of the night with sharp edge tools, in the day time with firearms, or in the courts of law armed with books and wit.
But most of us dont get caught up with anarchy or obstructing progress. Say what they will but almost everything great that gets done outside the liberal arts, is usually by people who want to win.. From erecting buildings, building corporations that put a model T in millions of garages, and defeating nazis and imperial japan and going to the moon. Yes JFK and FDR were winners who would kick the current crop of leftists square in the balls for what you have been up to for decades now.
So dont get carried away with your delusions that your fantastic perversions of reality are shared by everyone even if you can get your allies in the media to report it that way.
With the demise of printed media the snap of reality is as fast as closing a window and selecting power off. And some of us are paying attention. If it comes to it Trumps sole accomplishment may have to be just staving off 4 or 8 years of hypocrisy and pettiness from critics bent on ruining his legacy and with it all of our fortunes. Sad day indeed.
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Old 03-26-2018, 02:24 PM
 
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Spouting vile lies and nasty insults is not working.

Got anything else?
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Old 03-26-2018, 02:42 PM
 
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As I predicted, the Stormy interview was a bust and nothingburger.
the lawsuit over the validity of the settlement agreement continues. trump just shot himself in the foot on the front by stating, via a WH spokesperson, that all daniels claims are false. if he didn't have an affair with daniels then he's not the person mentioned in the settlement therefor he can not go after daniels if she violates that agreement.
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Old 03-26-2018, 02:43 PM
 
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"...we do not have the stomach to play your game when a D is in the White House"...

Are we living in the same century???
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Old 03-26-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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And Trump supports seem to think bashing HRC who won't run and wasn't indicted in Benghazi investigations will continue to deflect/protect Trump from any mistakes, legal or otherwise, he made and will make...
Why would the justice dept or FBI prosecute the person they desperately wanted in office to continue the washington dc status quo?
How many career bureaucrats and civil servants do you think wanted Trump the outsider drain the swamp guy to win?
You might think this BS about hillary not getting indicted dismisses allegations of horrible corruption but I beg to differ.
It shows incredible dishonesty or detachment from reality.
Never mind reliable accounts of tarmac meetings between justice dept officials and her husband and text records of FBI agents involved blatantly supporting her.

I guess you think the Clinton Foundation was a real charity and it was sheer coincidence all those donors just happened to be involved with business connected to state dept activities?

The Clintons are up to their eyeballs in graft, payoffs, RICO relevent racketeering all the way back to little rock. You influence and control or buy off enough cronies and endear yourself to a fawning media and it is career suicide for any civil servant to prosecute you.
The media portrayed the story as all about benghazi and negligence about classifying servers to water it down. The real story was why did she use a private server at all?
To bury her connections and activities with clinton foundation donors. Duh
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