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Old 04-10-2018, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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I love how the Right hasn't figured out that they own all three branches of the Federal Government. Maybe somebody should tell them. It's weird. It's like they think somebody else is in charge....... President. Court. Congress. So lock the people you want to lock up. You are in charge. If things don't go right it's not the lefts fault. You own this .......... Pass the popcorn.

 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:14 PM
 
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Why isn't Dershowitz representing Trump? Oh right, no one likes to be on the losing side of a case.

The raid wouldn't have been signed off by a judge unless Cohen either a) refused to cooperate with subpoenas, or b) there was a strong belief he may have been destroying evidence related to the case.
You don't know that. How do you know that? How is it that you know that the judge isn't actually in on this witch hunt himself, and hasn't been paid off or threatened to gain cooperation?

Actually given that the alternate route such as subpoena is the FIRST of the SIX guidelines developed for these situations, the odds are that it was completely ignored and that makes judicial malfeasance (or coercion) that much more likely. Because if it had been subpoenaed we would have heard all about how Cohen wasn't complying.
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:15 PM
 
Location: sumter
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I love how the Right hasn't figured out that they own all three branches of the Federal Government. Maybe somebody should tell them. It's weird. It's like they think somebody else is in charge....... President. Court. Congress. So lock the people you want to lock up. You are in charge. If things don't go right it's not the lefts fault. You own this .......... Pass the popcorn.
Lol
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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And? What would the ACLU have to say, there's nothing illegal about the raid.
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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You don't know that. How do you know that? How is it that you know that the judge isn't actually in on this witch hunt himself, and hasn't been paid off or threatened to gain cooperation?

Actually given that the alternate route such as subpoena is the FIRST of the SIX guidelines developed for these situations, the odds are that it was completely ignored and that makes judicial malfeasance (or coercion) that much more likely. Because if it had been subpoenaed we would have heard all about how Cohen wasn't complying.
So it's a conspiracy by Republicans to overthrow the president they elected and supported ? FBI was "trumpland" before the election.
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:18 PM
 
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The term "deep state" is used within political science to describe influential decision-making bodies within government that are relatively permanent and whose policies and long-term plans are unaffected by changing administrations. The term is often used in a critical sense vis-à-vis the general electorate to refer to the lack of influence popular democracy has on these institutions and the decisions they make.

HOPE & CHANGE

Trump, is a political independent, opposed both by Democratic and GOP establishment. A well-funded hard-left extremists, the media, and Obama/Clinton holdovers in the gov't bureaucracy have combined with forces within the US intelligence apparatus – the “Deep State” -- to block and undermine Trump’s every move. What emerged from the hard left, once Trump was elected, was a political strategy calculated to block Trump from being inaugurated, and when that failed, to make sure Trump would not serve out his term. This Deep State or Shadow Government secretly wields power in Washington, and why the Deep State is dangerous.
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:22 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure the thinking is to first take down Trump, by whatever means, then worry about picking up the pieces of our justice system later.
Is that why Flynn, Gates, Padadoupolous have plead guilty to lying to the FBI and made a plea deal and Van derZwann has plead guilty and taken his court ordered punishment?
Because they are taking down Trump first???
I would say Manafort is likely to be taken down before Trump and Cohen running a close second to Manafort...

Nicole Miller said today on her afternoon MSNBC show that she had spoken with someone who knows Michael Cohen well, and Cohen who has been described as a loyalist who would take a bullet for Trump said that not only would Cohen not take a bullet for Trump, he wouldn't go to jail for him either...

Now I know that Manafort fears Putin's long arm more than Trump or Mueller--
I don't expect him to make a plea deal unless he can be guarded closer than Fort Knox but Cohen wasn't really in bed with Putin---he only did dirty deals for Trump...
So Cohen is maybe going to be squeezed hard enough now that his records, phones, and laptops are in FBI hands that he might consider becoming a cooperating witness rather than a target of the investigation...

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Old 04-10-2018, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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The term "deep state" is used within political science to describe influential decision-making bodies within government that are relatively permanent and whose policies and long-term plans are unaffected by changing administrations. The term is often used in a critical sense vis-à-vis the general electorate to refer to the lack of influence popular democracy has on these institutions and the decisions they make.

Trump, is a political independent, opposed both by Democratic Party enemies and GOP establishment must employ to stay in office and have a chance of a successful first term in office.

A well-funded hard-left extremists, the mainstream media, and Obama/Clinton holdovers in the gov't bureaucracy have combined with clandestine forces within the US intelligence apparatus – the “Deep State” -- to block and undermine Trump’s every move. What emerged from the hard left, once Trump was elected, was a political strategy calculated to block Trump from being inaugurated, and if that failed, to make sure Trump would not long serve out his term. This Deep State or Shadow Government secretly wields power in Washington, and why the Deep State is dangerous.
Let me guess. They hold secret meetings in the back of a pizza Parlour . If you order a slice of pepperoni with extra cheese you are allowed in. Was the deep state around when Obama was Prez or he was the founder ? I think they take orders from a chief in Kenya. Siiiiiigh
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:23 PM
 
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Let me guess. They hold secret meetings in the back of a pizza Parlour . If you order a slice of pepperoni with extra cheese you are allowed in. Was the deep state around when Obama was Prez or he was the founder ? I think they take orders from a chief in Kenya. Siiiiiigh
Nah that kind of thing can't happen her in the U.S., the land of the free <sarcasm>
 
Old 04-10-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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In the middle of President Trump’s briefing on Assad’s gas attack on the Syrian people, he found out that the F.B.I. was raiding the home and office of his former personal attorney, Michael Cohen. Trump has to concentrate on his decision-making and chaos like this diverts his attention and, in the process, hurts the American people.
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