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Old 05-09-2018, 02:23 PM
 
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Something else for Kylia Carter and desertdetroiter to ponder:



Average Salary of a Minor League Baseball Player: $2,150.00 per month.


Average Salary of a an NBA Developmental League Player: $19,500 or $26,000 per year.


Value of Wendell Carter’s one year at Duke: $72,000 tuition and room & board. Plus numerous travel opportunities, networking opportunities, and the perfect stage to position himself for the NBA draft after which he will earn millions.

If that is Slavery, I will gladly sign on.


Do you need help with the numbers desertdetroiter?
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Old 05-09-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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The creator of the NCAA system likened it to slavery. So he doesn’t know his own invention better than you? What sport did you play in college?
I do not care what the creator says, it is not even close to slavery. You of all people on this forum I would think you would find such notion absurd.

A slave; a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them. The players are no one's property and they are not forced to obey them. A person in an NCAA sport is free to leave at any time.

People work very hard, and put numerous hours of practice and playing in hopes of getting into one of these NCAA sports. I seriously doubt slaves were putting in lots of training and hoping and praying for a chance to be a slave. After the person starts playing, they continue to put in numerous hours of practice and pay time in hopes of not only continuing to play, but to be selected for professional sports. A slave is most likely not thrilled by such prospect of being a slave, and if anything, looking for how to escape. A person in the NCAA can quit at any time, a slave cannot quit.

I did not play sports in college, not a college sponsored sport at least (I do jiu itsu). I guess my jiu jistu is slavery since I actually pay for the classes, and the head coach/gym owner reaps the awards of having highly competitive and award winners attending his gym.

My college was paid by the GI Bill, I put in 12 years of service and three combat deployments. but I guess though I should feel sorry for the NCAA players who volunteer to play a game for their college payment.
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Old 05-09-2018, 03:17 PM
 
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The biggest challenge facing paying those players is that the basketball and football teams already financially carry all the people on Lacrosse, Volleyball etc. scholarships at most schools.

You start paying the Duke basketball players then you have to start paying the Lacrosse players, all of the women teams athletes....everybody. Then what if you try to pay them different amounts?

One giant, colossal cluster there.
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Old 05-09-2018, 03:23 PM
 
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The misery on these people's faces, being forced into slavery;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHJZCZIJcC0
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:00 PM
 
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I do not care what the creator says, it is not even close to slavery. You of all people on this forum I would think you would find such notion absurd.

A slave; a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them. The players are no one's property and they are not forced to obey them. A person in an NCAA sport is free to leave at any time.

People work very hard, and put numerous hours of practice and playing in hopes of getting into one of these NCAA sports. I seriously doubt slaves were putting in lots of training and hoping and praying for a chance to be a slave. After the person starts playing, they continue to put in numerous hours of practice and pay time in hopes of not only continuing to play, but to be selected for professional sports. A slave is most likely not thrilled by such prospect of being a slave, and if anything, looking for how to escape. A person in the NCAA can quit at any time, a slave cannot quit.

I did not play sports in college, not a college sponsored sport at least (I do jiu itsu). I guess my jiu jistu is slavery since I actually pay for the classes, and the head coach/gym owner reaps the awards of having highly competitive and award winners attending his gym.

My college was paid by the GI Bill, I put in 12 years of service and three combat deployments. but I guess though I should feel sorry for the NCAA players who volunteer to play a game for their college payment.
I’m going with Walter Byers’ opinion over yours. Why? Because he created it and knew it better than you do.
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:03 PM
 
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Something else for Kylia Carter and desertdetroiter to ponder:



Average Salary of a Minor League Baseball Player: $2,150.00 per month.


Average Salary of a an NBA Developmental League Player: $19,500 or $26,000 per year.


Value of Wendell Carter’s one year at Duke: $72,000 tuition and room & board. Plus numerous travel opportunities, networking opportunities, and the perfect stage to position himself for the NBA draft after which he will earn millions.

If that is Slavery, I will gladly sign on.


Do you need help with the numbers desertdetroiter?
What numbers?
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:15 PM
 
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I’m going with Walter Byers’ opinion over yours. Why? Because he created it and knew it better than you do.
You are going with his opinion because you have no counter to my arguments. If his opinion was counter to your opinion, I am sure you would not change your opinion to align with his.
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Old 05-10-2018, 06:47 AM
 
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“The problem that I see is not with the student-athletes, it’s not with the coaches or the institutions of higher learning but it’s with a system … where the laborers are the only people that are not being compensated for the work..."

I actually agree with the part of her statement bolded. football and basketball player athletes get little compensation compared to the millions and millions they generate for their university and their coaches. I have always thought college football and basketball athletes at very profitable athletic schools should receive a salary for playing ball.
They ARE being compensated: athletic scholarships. The Cost of Attendance at Duke is about $73,000/year. They're being compensated $73,000/year.
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Old 05-10-2018, 07:01 AM
 
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what numbers?

72,000 > 2,500?
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Old 05-10-2018, 07:04 AM
 
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And if they study and do well, they can expect an average starting salary of $53K per year, with a good chance of moving into the 6-figure world pretty quickly.
Most of them major in and earn their degree in sports-related fields such as Athletic Training, Sports Communication, etc., and if they end up not going pro, get a job at their alma mater, another school, or a with a pro team. They do exist, but it's pretty rare to find exceptional NCAA athletes who also earn challenging degrees.

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