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Old 05-18-2018, 11:15 PM
 
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You are comparing apples and oranges.
That is a total cop out. Bad prenatal care is child abuse if abortion is murder.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:16 PM
 
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Thus doubling the costs. In other words trying to end any resources for the poor so the poor are forced to have babies born into poverty.

Make no mistake, those that can afford it, will still get abortions. The poorest will be the ones Republicans force to be born.
Thy can still have abortions just at another facility. If PP is so concerned for women then they will do it. Why is PP concerned with tax payer money----they will still get it but not at the abortion facility. Something makes me think PP is lying when they sy tax payers don't pay for abortions.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:17 PM
 
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I'd rather have no abortions but if we must then separate the facilities like this plan does.
There has been abortion for centuries. Nothing is going to change it whether it’s legal or not. So do you want back alley abortions again.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:18 PM
 
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That is a total cop out. Bad prenatal care is child abuse if abortion is murder.
Some women have been turned in for bad prenatal care, especially taking drugs. That is child abuse.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:19 PM
 
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There has been abortion for centuries. Nothing is going to change it whether it’s legal or not. So do you want back alley abortions again.
I think a lot will change if abortion is illegal, especially for the babies.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:19 PM
 
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Thy can still have abortions just at another facility. If PP is so concerned for women then they will do it. Why is PP concerned with tax payer money----they will still get it but not at the abortion facility. Something makes me think PP is lying when they sy tax payers don't pay for abortions.
Planned Parenthood is not a for profit organization. Requiring them to double their facilities is ridiculous and Trump and the Republicans know it. They are trying to do the same thing Republicans did in previous years. Create so many regulations around abortion as to make it impossible for the poor. By telling Planned Parenthood they need separate facilities, Planned Parenthood will have to choose. I would hope Planned Parenthood just leaves red states and let red states live with the consequences. Their taxpayers deserve to pay the price.

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I think a lot will change if abortion is illegal, especially for the babies.
Abortion is not illegal. And the wealthy will always be able to get a D&C.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:25 PM
 
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Some women have been turned in for bad prenatal care, especially taking drugs. That is child abuse.
If someone plans to carry a child to full term is pretty ****ed up to have it born a drug addict but that does not answer my question. Do you or anyone you know follow pregnant women around and monitor their prenatal care?
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:25 PM
 
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This is another good it will do----

"The Trump administration official said the proposal will aid in transparency and integrity, allowing better monitoring of Title X fund recipients. It will also require Title X recipients to document how they follow state laws on reporting suspected cases of sexual assault, incest and rape. "
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:27 PM
 
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If someone plans to carry a child to full term is pretty ****ed up to have it born a drug addict but that does not answer my question. Do you or anyone you know follow pregnant women around and monitor their prenatal care?
My friend adopted a baby from a woman who took every drug in the book. Today he a healthy 14 year old.
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Old 05-18-2018, 11:28 PM
 
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This is another good it will do----

"The Trump administration official said the proposal will aid in transparency and integrity, allowing better monitoring of Title X fund recipients. It will also require Title X recipients to document how they follow state laws on reporting suspected cases of sexual assault, incest and rape. "
So a girl who is molested by her father will be so terrified of getting help that she will try other means. Genius. And think of the drug addicted babies born to drug addicted mothers. This is all a recipe for disaster but once again Republicans will say it's in the name of religion, while defending Trump whose behavior is anything but religious.

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My friend adopted a baby from a woman who took every drug in the book. Today he a healthy 14 year old.
I have a friend that tried to do similar. The baby grew up to be a teenager, was in and out of trouble constantly and committed suicide at 15.
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