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Old 05-19-2018, 01:47 PM
 
Location: On the Beach
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So now the taxpayers not paying your bills is somehow denying your "right to choose"? Planned Parenthood had $4,000,000 to donate to democrats in 2016 alone, they should be able to fund your "right to choose" without tax dollars.
Precisely why PP now gets the bulk of my charitable giving. I used to focus on organizations that address world hunger but, feel like the religious folk will take care of them. Now my giving goes to PP and environmental groups only.
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:49 PM
 
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But the DR isn’t even allowed to mention the word abortion to thier patient.



This is really just about Trump kissing his fan bases arse and nothing else he’s using them.
PP doesn't mention ADOPTION. they just assume the woman is coming in for an abortion and won't talk about anything else. They do need to get their quota of abortions before the end of the month.
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:50 PM
 
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Precisely why PP now gets the bulk of my charitable giving. I used to focus on organizations that address world hunger but, feel like the religious folk will take care of them. Now my giving goes to PP and environmental groups only.
Good. Let those who want women to get abortions give the money, not those who do not support it.
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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This plan does not stop abortions. Read it again. It separates the facilities.
If it will not stop abortions, what is the point?
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:58 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Last time I checked abortion was a legal medical procedure.
Last time I checked, several religions prohibited murder
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Old 05-19-2018, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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PP doesn't mention ADOPTION. they just assume the woman is coming in for an abortion and won't talk about anything else. They do need to get their quota of abortions before the end of the month.
False.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/le...ering-adoption

"The staff at your local Planned Parenthood can also refer you to adoption agencies or other resources in your area."

There are no quotas, as you were told in another thread. Repeating that does not lend credibility to your argument.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pl...ortion-quotas/
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Old 05-19-2018, 02:22 PM
 
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If it will not stop abortions, what is the point?
Point is our tax dollars won't go towards abortion as PP says it does not. This will make them prove it.
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Old 05-19-2018, 02:24 PM
 
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False.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/le...ering-adoption

"The staff at your local Planned Parenthood can also refer you to adoption agencies or other resources in your area."

There are no quotas, as you were told in another thread. Repeating that does not lend credibility to your argument.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pl...ortion-quotas/
Sorry, I trust Abby Johnson who ran an abortion clinic over left leaning Snopes. She saw what was going on in the clinics.
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Old 05-19-2018, 02:38 PM
 
Location: The analog world
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PP doesn't mention ADOPTION. they just assume the woman is coming in for an abortion and won't talk about anything else. They do need to get their quota of abortions before the end of the month.
Are you kidding me? When a woman comes in for a pregnancy test, PP does not automatically refer her for abortion. She is referred for continuing prenatal care! A pregnant woman will only be referred for termination if she seeks it out.
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Old 05-19-2018, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I'm not seeing a problem. Many people support abortion. Just have them voluntarily contribute to pay for abortions.
This boils down to congress disagreeing with PP accounting system that they created, they requested that no tax dollars go to abortion procedures. PP is the most audited health care clinic in the universe but now they need the added expense of separating facilities, closing buildings and relocating. This is just Trump preaching to his rabid base, do they want to prevent unwanted pregnancies or just make a point for the November election.


This will be challenged and Trump will lose in the courts, its a solution looking for a problem. Even if successful it will do nothing to prevent abortions but it will impact 4 million looking for access to health care. More money wasted, more right wing GOP members wasting time, do they want to reduce the abortion rate or just increase the number of foster children.
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