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".......The fashion CEO is keen to stress she does not blame this man, who she desribes as being 6ft tall and of Southeast Asian descent.'I remain more angry with those white middle class men who left me to it....."
That explains her SJW nutjob lunacy of blaming the white guys and giving her attacker a pass.
Not at all. I said in my OP:
"In my mind, any able bodied person of ANY gender witnessing an attack on someone of ANY gender should have lent a hand if they were able."
Yes, you did, and I agree with that portion of what you said.
I do not, however, agree with your implication that this individual woman's comments somehow invalidate the argument for equal rights.
All we know about these men is that they are middle aged and white. Nothing about whether they are in shape at all or even physically fit. Yet just by virtue of their gender, you assume that these two random men would be better candidates than any woman onboard because it's assumed the women would be smaller in stature and weaker in strength.
By that logic, the vast overwhelming majority of any job which requires strength or toughness should be given to a man.
Now, I am not advocating for that at all but the problem I have is that our society says that this point of view is sexist and regressive but at the same time there is still this sort of social contract where it's the man who is expected to step up in situations like this and nobody ever questions or shames a woman for not doing so.
No. Im not assuming anything. The woman who called them out apparently made that call.
I'm saying she called those two particular men out not all men, the way I read it.
Our society has a lot of problems. As I said 150,000 years of man being protector and provider, conqueror and leader, 150,000 years of woman being weak, submissive, dependent on men.
This is the same reason we don't shame the man if the house is dirty, we dont look down on men like we do women who abandon their children or don't like children, we don't expect men to take a woman's name upon marriage, we don't expect a man to bring a potluck to a gathering and other such trivial societal expectations.
You cant expect things to change overnight and if you expect change shouldn't it be across the board?
And BTW the vast overwhelming majority of jobs requiring strength or toughness are given to men.
There is no denying that humans can be altruistic beings who are often willing to help others in need. But many men specifically seem to be hard-wired by genetics to want to help women even if it means putting their own lives at risk. Whether this is due to biological drive or cultural conditioning is of little importance. What is important is to understand the implications of helping a woman who you have no previous connection with so that you are not putting yourself in unnecessary danger.
Know that we are living in a modern society where most other people you encounter are complete strangers whom you know nothing about. It is understandable to protect and save someone you know and care for, but there is no reason for you to jump in and be the knight in shinning armor to save some nameless person just because she happens to lack a Y chromosome.
Of course, it all depends on the specific situation you are faced with. But if you find yourself habitually white-knighting for women, here are 7 reasons to pause and reconsider your motives and what you’re getting yourself into.
1.You Don’t Even Realize That You’re Thinking With Your Dick
Most men who help female strangers are completely oblivious to the fact that their altruism is heavily influenced by their subconscious desire for sex. For a demonstration, experiments done using college-aged women found that men were much more likely (82-83% compared to 42-47%) to comply with a request for a survey and offer help if the woman making the request was wearing high-heels as opposed to flats.
If something as simple as feminine shoes are able to elicit much more altruistic response from men (female subjects, on the other hand, were not affected by the types of shoes that were being worn and were much less likely to offer help than the men), then you know that you are more than likely thinking with your dick and doing something that you normally wouldn’t do.
2. She’s Not Going To Fall For You
Continuing on with the first point, helping a woman out will never make her fall in love with you. You’re just some random nobody who happened to be there at the right moment when she needed you. Once she’s got the service she needed from you, you are a nobody once again. You are expected to disappear.
All the poor, desperate simps who believe that a woman will fall in love with him for his heroism are only bound to be rewarded with disappointment. Look at it this way: You are more likely to have a woman fall in love with you by using violence to take her hostage (via Stockholm Syndrome) than by being the one rescuing her.
3. She Will Likely Bail On You
Not only is a woman unlikely to fall for you, she is also likely to bail on you. Whenever a man jumps in to “save” a woman from another man, you can almost guarantee that she will simply run away and treat the situation as if she was never involved in it the first place.
We have already covered how the French train hero was stabbed when he stepped into help a woman who was being “attacked”—only to have her run away with the same men who supposedly attacked her. You have to understand that while you are driven by your male instinct to save her, she’s driven by her female instinct to preserve herself by using you.
4. You’re Degrading Yourself As A Utility To Be Exploited
It’s no secret that women see men as utilities to be exploited. For women, men are not human beings, but drones to be manipulated to do their bidding. Many men today are so desperate for female validation that they’re willing to shovel snow for some entitled princess on Tinder with full knowledge that they will get nothing in return.
Can you imagine the sort of reaction you would get from women if you asked them to iron your clothes, with “no strings attached” on Tinder? It’s simple: don’t be a tool.
5. She Would Never Do The Same For You
Feminists continue to propagate their garbage about equality because it enables them access to male privileges without giving up any of their female privileges. One of that privilege is the ability to have men risk their lives to save them while they’re not expected to do the same for men.
For a dramatic demonstration of just how little women care about men—especially when they’re being abused and attacked by another woman—take a look at the following videos:
Note how gleefully they smile and laugh when men are the ones being abused, claiming that he must be guilty and deserve it (excuses that would never fly for men who abuse their partners).
6. You’ll Be Accused Of Being A Sexist
PrincessDaisy
“You saved Princess Daisy? Sexist! She should be able to save herself without a man’s help!!” —Says the woman begging the UN for protection while being guarded by armed men.
As if all the above points are not insulting enough, you’re likely to be demonized as a sexist prick by the feminists instead of being praised for helping a woman. Why? Because it’s benevolent sexism. Feminists love to harp about how strong and independent they are and how they don’t need a man. Give them their wish and let them help themselves the next time you see them in trouble.
7. You’re Putting Yourself At Needless Risk For Nothing
The man in the blue jacket died while saving the woman. And for what?
In the end, what are you really trying to accomplish? Are you not simply acting upon your male instinct in a knee-jerk reaction? And for what? To save some ungrateful broad you don’t know anything about? Do you even understand what the situation is?
One man got out of his car and onto the train tracks only to get killed by the incoming train while trying to save a woman who jumped there to kill herself—he couldn’t even save her. Is that how you want to throw away the only life you have?
Or how about the man who was stabbed and bled to death when he jumped in to save a woman he knew nothing about? The woman just ran away (see point #3) while he bled to death on the street with more than twenty people just walking past him.
Congratulations stranger, you just earned a posthumous title of “hero” which will be forgotten in a week.
Conclusion
All that said, I’m not suggesting that you should never help anyone in need no matter the circumstances. But you should consider each scenario carefully and make the right judgement instead of letting instincts from your penis take over you. Trying to help or save someone just because the person happens to have a vagina is both incredibly foolish and risky.
Always put your needs first—because she most certainly is putting her needs above yours.
I had a neighbour 25 years ago who came across a man beating a woman outside a pub near his home. He was just out walking his small dog.
He stepped in to stop the guy beating the woman. The two of them then set about him, and hurt him quite badly, requiring hospital treatment.
He told me from then on, he would mind his own business.
Four years ago, I was walking to the supermarket, when I came across a young man hitting a young woman. There was another older woman there also.
I crossed the road as I approached to keep out of it. As I passed he hit her again, and she went down to the floor. The other woman was crying loudly.
I thought, "s***" and crossed the road, and said "hey that's enough." He came at me, and pushed me talking in a foreign language. I just knew he was going to punch me, so I hit him hard on the nose, breaking it. He went down on the floor.
I knew if he got up, I was in big trouble. My left knee is bad, and if I went down, I wouldn't be able to get up before he kicked hell out of me. I tried to look intimidating, but I was scared.
I told the women to go, and they did. When they were out of sight, I backed away, and hurried off to the supermarket. My hands were shaking, and did so for ages after. I was really shaken up, thinking how that could have gone. I won't do it again. I'm getting too old for fighting.
Thinking about it after, the three of them could have set about me. In a similar situation that's what happened to my neighbour. I think that's why nowadays folks are reluctant to get involved. You just don't know what you're dealing with.
Last edited by English Dave; 06-12-2018 at 12:16 PM..
Yes, you did, and I agree with that portion of what you said.
I do not, however, agree with your implication that this individual woman's comments somehow invalidate the argument for equal rights.
Her comments don't in any way invalidate the argument for equal rights.
My problem is with her (and many other people's) interpretation of equal rights where in some circumstances it's considered sexist to say that men are stronger and tougher and in other circumstances it's expected of men to be stronger and tougher.
There is no denying that humans can be altruistic beings who are often willing to help others in need. But many men specifically seem to be hard-wired by genetics to want to help women even if it means putting their own lives at risk. Whether this is due to biological drive or cultural conditioning is of little importance. What is important is to understand the implications of helping a woman who you have no previous connection with so that you are not putting yourself in unnecessary danger.
Know that we are living in a modern society where most other people you encounter are complete strangers whom you know nothing about. It is understandable to protect and save someone you know and care for, but there is no reason for you to jump in and be the knight in shinning armor to save some nameless person just because she happens to lack a Y chromosome.
Of course, it all depends on the specific situation you are faced with. But if you find yourself habitually white-knighting for women, here are 7 reasons to pause and reconsider your motives and what you’re getting yourself into.
1.You Don’t Even Realize That You’re Thinking With Your Dick
Most men who help female strangers are completely oblivious to the fact that their altruism is heavily influenced by their subconscious desire for sex. For a demonstration, experiments done using college-aged women found that men were much more likely (82-83% compared to 42-47%) to comply with a request for a survey and offer help if the woman making the request was wearing high-heels as opposed to flats.
If something as simple as feminine shoes are able to elicit much more altruistic response from men (female subjects, on the other hand, were not affected by the types of shoes that were being worn and were much less likely to offer help than the men), then you know that you are more than likely thinking with your dick and doing something that you normally wouldn’t do.
2. She’s Not Going To Fall For You
Continuing on with the first point, helping a woman out will never make her fall in love with you. You’re just some random nobody who happened to be there at the right moment when she needed you. Once she’s got the service she needed from you, you are a nobody once again. You are expected to disappear.
All the poor, desperate simps who believe that a woman will fall in love with him for his heroism are only bound to be rewarded with disappointment. Look at it this way: You are more likely to have a woman fall in love with you by using violence to take her hostage (via Stockholm Syndrome) than by being the one rescuing her.
3. She Will Likely Bail On You
Not only is a woman unlikely to fall for you, she is also likely to bail on you. Whenever a man jumps in to “save” a woman from another man, you can almost guarantee that she will simply run away and treat the situation as if she was never involved in it the first place.
We have already covered how the French train hero was stabbed when he stepped into help a woman who was being “attacked”—only to have her run away with the same men who supposedly attacked her. You have to understand that while you are driven by your male instinct to save her, she’s driven by her female instinct to preserve herself by using you.
4. You’re Degrading Yourself As A Utility To Be Exploited
It’s no secret that women see men as utilities to be exploited. For women, men are not human beings, but drones to be manipulated to do their bidding. Many men today are so desperate for female validation that they’re willing to shovel snow for some entitled princess on Tinder with full knowledge that they will get nothing in return.
Can you imagine the sort of reaction you would get from women if you asked them to iron your clothes, with “no strings attached” on Tinder? It’s simple: don’t be a tool.
5. She Would Never Do The Same For You
Feminists continue to propagate their garbage about equality because it enables them access to male privileges without giving up any of their female privileges. One of that privilege is the ability to have men risk their lives to save them while they’re not expected to do the same for men.
For a dramatic demonstration of just how little women care about men—especially when they’re being abused and attacked by another woman—take a look at the following videos:
Note how gleefully they smile and laugh when men are the ones being abused, claiming that he must be guilty and deserve it (excuses that would never fly for men who abuse their partners).
6. You’ll Be Accused Of Being A Sexist
PrincessDaisy
“You saved Princess Daisy? Sexist! She should be able to save herself without a man’s help!!” —Says the woman begging the UN for protection while being guarded by armed men.
As if all the above points are not insulting enough, you’re likely to be demonized as a sexist prick by the feminists instead of being praised for helping a woman. Why? Because it’s benevolent sexism. Feminists love to harp about how strong and independent they are and how they don’t need a man. Give them their wish and let them help themselves the next time you see them in trouble.
7. You’re Putting Yourself At Needless Risk For Nothing
The man in the blue jacket died while saving the woman. And for what?
In the end, what are you really trying to accomplish? Are you not simply acting upon your male instinct in a knee-jerk reaction? And for what? To save some ungrateful broad you don’t know anything about? Do you even understand what the situation is?
One man got out of his car and onto the train tracks only to get killed by the incoming train while trying to save a woman who jumped there to kill herself—he couldn’t even save her. Is that how you want to throw away the only life you have?
Or how about the man who was stabbed and bled to death when he jumped in to save a woman he knew nothing about? The woman just ran away (see point #3) while he bled to death on the street with more than twenty people just walking past him.
Congratulations stranger, you just earned a posthumous title of “hero” which will be forgotten in a week.
Conclusion
All that said, I’m not suggesting that you should never help anyone in need no matter the circumstances. But you should consider each scenario carefully and make the right judgement instead of letting instincts from your penis take over you. Trying to help or save someone just because the person happens to have a vagina is both incredibly foolish and risky.
Always put your needs first—because she most certainly is putting her needs above yours.
A. Some people, men and women alike, help others because they believe it is the right thing to do.
B. If you have time to compose a text wall, you have time to include links.
Her comments don't in any way invalidate the argument for equal rights.
My problem is with her (and many other people's) interpretation of equal rights where in some circumstances it's considered sexist to say that men are stronger and tougher and in other circumstances it's expected of men to be stronger and tougher.
I think that, on average, men probably are physically stronger than women of comparable size. That doesn't necessarily mean they are tougher (ask any woman who has given birth!)
I don't think standards of physical strength should be altered to please anyone, if physical strength is critical to getting the job done. On the other hand, I see a lot of men saying that women are less suited than men to police work, for example, and I think that's a crock. There is a lot more to police work than sheer brute force, particularly when it comes to undercover or detective work, and a department that makes strength its only criteria, or even its primary one, is going to suffer as a result.
It seems to me that some of the people you are complaining about might be quite willing to admit to the generally greater physical strength of men, if not for those few who value that quality above all others, and argue that might makes right.
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