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Old 06-12-2018, 12:10 PM
 
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Slamming 2 White middle-class men for not helping is rich coming from a White woman who is a fashion company CEO. I don't know what her income is, but fashion company CEOs can be middle to upper-class.
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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[quote=redwood66;52175583]Here is a quote from her. What I would like to know is why their race or class matters in this situation? Because of this comment by her (who is likely upper class) she deserves ire from readers.

'I remain more angry with those white middle class men who left me to it. As fathers, husbands and sons they should be ashamed of themselves.'

I don't know about England, but in the US these "white middle class men" are so demonized that people, ESPECIALLY women, would NEVER come to their aid if they were assaulted.



But there is no shame in that of course.
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So, she is blaming two guys that "didn't" do anything. Not the nutcase that did?
No she's calling out the gutless cowards who don't care about defending a person under attack. You're supposed to defend those that can't defend themselves. That's what a man does.

And then she throws a wrench in the entire situation by exposing her bigotry "I remain more angry with those white middle class men who left me to it. As fathers, husbands and sons they should be ashamed of themselves."

and
"On social media, she portrays herself as an empowered feminist who don't need no man and constantly attacks the white men......"

She didn't deserve to be attacked and she still should have been defended but I dont have much sympathy for bigots. And I'm wondering if it actually happened. There was mention of footage from the tube.
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:26 PM
 
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There is no denying that humans can be altruistic beings who are often willing to help others in need. But many men specifically seem to be hard-wired by genetics to want to help women even if it means putting their own lives at risk. Whether this is due to biological drive or cultural conditioning is of little importance. What is important is to understand the implications of helping a woman who you have no previous connection with so that you are not putting yourself in unnecessary danger.

Know that we are living in a modern society where most other people you encounter are complete strangers whom you know nothing about. It is understandable to protect and save someone you know and care for, but there is no reason for you to jump in and be the knight in shinning armor to save some nameless person just because she happens to lack a Y chromosome.

Of course, it all depends on the specific situation you are faced with. But if you find yourself habitually white-knighting for women, here are 7 reasons to pause and reconsider your motives and what you’re getting yourself into.

1.You Don’t Even Realize That You’re Thinking With Your Dick


Most men who help female strangers are completely oblivious to the fact that their altruism is heavily influenced by their subconscious desire for sex. For a demonstration, experiments done using college-aged women found that men were much more likely (82-83% compared to 42-47%) to comply with a request for a survey and offer help if the woman making the request was wearing high-heels as opposed to flats.

If something as simple as feminine shoes are able to elicit much more altruistic response from men (female subjects, on the other hand, were not affected by the types of shoes that were being worn and were much less likely to offer help than the men), then you know that you are more than likely thinking with your dick and doing something that you normally wouldn’t do.

2. She’s Not Going To Fall For You

Continuing on with the first point, helping a woman out will never make her fall in love with you. You’re just some random nobody who happened to be there at the right moment when she needed you. Once she’s got the service she needed from you, you are a nobody once again. You are expected to disappear.

All the poor, desperate simps who believe that a woman will fall in love with him for his heroism are only bound to be rewarded with disappointment. Look at it this way: You are more likely to have a woman fall in love with you by using violence to take her hostage (via Stockholm Syndrome) than by being the one rescuing her.

3. She Will Likely Bail On You


Not only is a woman unlikely to fall for you, she is also likely to bail on you. Whenever a man jumps in to “save” a woman from another man, you can almost guarantee that she will simply run away and treat the situation as if she was never involved in it the first place.

We have already covered how the French train hero was stabbed when he stepped into help a woman who was being “attacked”—only to have her run away with the same men who supposedly attacked her. You have to understand that while you are driven by your male instinct to save her, she’s driven by her female instinct to preserve herself by using you.

4. You’re Degrading Yourself As A Utility To Be Exploited


It’s no secret that women see men as utilities to be exploited. For women, men are not human beings, but drones to be manipulated to do their bidding. Many men today are so desperate for female validation that they’re willing to shovel snow for some entitled princess on Tinder with full knowledge that they will get nothing in return.

Can you imagine the sort of reaction you would get from women if you asked them to iron your clothes, with “no strings attached” on Tinder? It’s simple: don’t be a tool.

5. She Would Never Do The Same For You

Feminists continue to propagate their garbage about equality because it enables them access to male privileges without giving up any of their female privileges. One of that privilege is the ability to have men risk their lives to save them while they’re not expected to do the same for men.

For a dramatic demonstration of just how little women care about men—especially when they’re being abused and attacked by another woman—take a look at the following videos:



Note how gleefully they smile and laugh when men are the ones being abused, claiming that he must be guilty and deserve it (excuses that would never fly for men who abuse their partners).



6. You’ll Be Accused Of Being A Sexist
PrincessDaisy
“You saved Princess Daisy? Sexist! She should be able to save herself without a man’s help!!” —Says the woman begging the UN for protection while being guarded by armed men.

As if all the above points are not insulting enough, you’re likely to be demonized as a sexist prick by the feminists instead of being praised for helping a woman. Why? Because it’s benevolent sexism. Feminists love to harp about how strong and independent they are and how they don’t need a man. Give them their wish and let them help themselves the next time you see them in trouble.

7. You’re Putting Yourself At Needless Risk For Nothing

The man in the blue jacket died while saving the woman. And for what?

In the end, what are you really trying to accomplish? Are you not simply acting upon your male instinct in a knee-jerk reaction? And for what? To save some ungrateful broad you don’t know anything about? Do you even understand what the situation is?


Always put your needs first—because she most certainly is putting her needs above yours.

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Old 06-12-2018, 12:33 PM
 
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I will say something very simple: If those men were blacks, she would never accuse them. I can put 10000 $ on it.
And if she do, she would lose her job in 24 hours.
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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This is the outcome of crazed "feminists" who don't have a clue what they are asking for, all they know is that they hate men.

If you touch her trying to rescue her from a situation, you could face a lawsuit later down the line.

If you try to rescue her, you could get a lecture on what a patriarchal ahole you are for assuming that she couldn't defend herself.

If you talk to her, you could get a lecture on talking to women you don't know.

If you do anything or nothing, you lose, because "feminists" of today are not just for "equal wages" and "equal opportunities", it has gone far, far beyond that.

If you think that's what the "feminist movement" is about, you are unacceptably unaware of just how many females out there are saying everything BUT that.

A lot of people like to mock social media, but that is where you see exactly what people really think, more often than not, and especially more often than on a moderated forum.
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:43 PM
 
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I thought men were obsolete. I thought women needed men like fish need bicycles. ??.
It's a case of 'be careful what you wish for.'

Why would the woman want to be rescued by a Toxic Male?
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:47 PM
 
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5. She Would Never Do The Same For You

Feminists continue to propagate their garbage about equality because it enables them access to male privileges without giving up any of their female privileges. One of that privilege is the ability to have men risk their lives to save them while they’re not expected to do the same for men.
I don't entirely agree with this because I DO believe in equality, I just want to be 100% equitable!

But yeah.. this is pretty much my biggest problem with this incident and what it represents.
We live in a society that constantly says it's sexist to assume men are stronger or tougher than women.
We live in a society that says women are equally capable of being combat soldiers, police officers, firefighters and first responders.... all in the name of equality. If they are not capable, we lower the physical requirements for women in order to admit more women.

Yet we also live in a society where, as a man, I am expected to risk my life for any random female stranger who may be in danger without knowing the circumstances or the threat, knowing FULL well if the situation were reversed there would be exactly ZERO pressure on her to do the same for me or any other man.

We also live in a society where not only are women NOT expected to step up and assist, but they can react in fear or cry and it's fully acceptable. If a man did the same, he'd be ridiculed and mocked endlessly.

It's my nature that I would have hard time not helping ANYONE who needed help if I were able to and I witnessed it. I'm just really sick of the hypocrisy and the double standards.
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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From the article:

".......The fashion CEO is keen to stress she does not blame this man, who she describes as being 6ft tall and of Southeast Asian descent.'I remain more angry with those white middle class men who left me to it....."
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He's tall for an Asian. Maybe the white men were shorter.
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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I don't entirely agree with this because I DO believe in equality, I just want to be 100% equitable!

I have found nothing in life that is 100% equal, all the time.

Like with anything, it's give and take.
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