Should President Trump sign an executive order to make everify mandatory for employers?

[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by oceangaia

What's your source for such an allegation? And there is no single tool that solves all parts of the problem. Even if e-verify is most effective against newcomers, that's a good step in preventing today's newcomers from becoming tomorrow's long termers, especially since the system is already in place and expanding it's use costs little more.

Pointing out that the problem is not the newcomers who mostly come in on visas. It is the 11 million here already. They provide the infrastructure enabling new comers and sucking up immigration resources.

Everify is certainly useful. So would be a good national identity card...but we have historically refused that as allowing the Feds to obtain to much information about we citizens. That has always been a conservative issue.

I would also note that a good Everify is actually an automated ID card. Particularly if you add pictures and bio-metric data.

the data source is of course of the cite.

[jimj]

Originally Posted by It'sAutomatic

Yep, the old "blame Democrats" line, despite the fact that Republicans have had complete control on the federal level for a year and a half and probably will for the next 2.5 years as well. Why don't you ask them why they refuse to pass e-verify?

It's the same reason Democrats didn't do it back when they had full control of both houses and the White House...

[jimj]

Originally Posted by Oldglory

How do you know that the employers won't be charged? First off, it has to be proven that they "knowingly" hired illegal aliens. In many cases they provide very authentic looking fake documents to work and can fool the employer. Not saying that's always the case but why do you immediately jump to the conclusion that the employers who "knowingly" hired illegal aliens are getting a pass?


I know of a case where a Hispanic person in the personnel dept. hired illegal aliens knowingly and she interviewed them and accepted their fake documents. She was prosecuted but not her employer as they had no knowledge of it.


There has been some cases where it was proven that the employer themselves knew illegal aliens were working for them and they were prosecuted for it.

This is exactly why EVerify has to become mandatory. The old "we didn't KNOWINGLY" loophole...

[jimj]

Originally Posted by AFP

I don't think that the bulk of the undocumented employees will self deport they'll just find someone who pays them cash. There are a lot of people who are willing to pay cash because they know they usually will worker harder than US citizens.

They won't when stings are set up and/or the local news starts reporting people being arrested for hiring illegals.
All it will take is a few reports for that market to dry up. Not worth saving a few bucks to end up paying fines/fees 3+ times the "savings" I don't see why an EVerift App couldn't be designed for cell phones...

[jimj]

Originally Posted by middle-aged mom

30+ years of doing nothing is no accident. It has not mattered who sat the oval or held the majority.

Congress and whomever is sitting the oval hide behind the Big Deal prospect instead of a simple straight up bill with no pork, making eVerify a Federal Law and offense to not use it.

Let's see that roll call.

And FIRE those who've stymied Everify all these years...

[Oklazona Bound]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

Pointing out that the problem is not the newcomers who mostly come in on visas. It is the 11 million here already. They provide the infrastructure enabling new comers and sucking up immigration resources.

Everify is certainly useful. So would be a good national identity card...but we have historically refused that as allowing the Feds to obtain to much information about we citizens. That has always been a conservative issue.

I would also note that a good Everify is actually an automated ID card. Particularly if you add pictures and bio-metric data.

the data source is of course of the cite.

The new state ID's are suppose to be like a national ID card. They all have to fit the feds criteria. If the feds could guarantee that the data is safe I would be fine with it. But anything that is online will get hacked. Its not if but when.