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Old 07-11-2018, 09:22 PM
 
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Trump continues to have an interesting relationship with reality and the truth....

Russia exports to Germany are 16 Billion per year.

GDP of Germany - 3.5 TRILLION dollars.

So Russia "captures" about .4% of the economy of Germany.

Oh, Germany exports MORE to Russia than Russia to Germany....

What a bunch of BS.

If we want to go to "power" or "energy", Germany gets 10% from Russia and is no way reliant on it. They can get it or substitutes from many many places.

AND, Germany supports all the sanctions against Russia.

It's truly amazing that anyone believes a word out of this guy's trap.
Maybe. But you’ll believe everything Justice Cavanaugh says or go to jail. And Trump’s judicial legacy is secure for decades.

Something else to gnaw on: Trump gets re-elected, Ginsburg and Breyer croak. Two More Picks. Trump names Ann Coulter (an attorney, btw) and Alan Dershowitz.

And half of C-D plunges needles into their Oedipean eyeballs, screaming “Hey Hey Ho Ho! I Dont Wanna See No Mo!”
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:01 PM
 
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Less than 20% of the oil we consume is imported and nearly half of that is from Canada. With the exception of Canada the imports are rapidly dropping and will continue to drop. Saudi oil makes up less than 15% of imports or about 3% of the oil we consume.
However it is a global market, and if Saudi all together stopped production, you would see very steep price increases, even if the US did not import a single drop. That is why when Saudi ramped up the production, it caused a price crash impacting the US, and when they cit production, it caused a price increase impacting the US.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:04 PM
 
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I have lots of friends in my FB account from various European countries. Its not just a German problem to be overly dependent on Russia for energy. These Europeans who live in these Russian energy dependent nations all fear angering Russia because the Russians are known for turning off the electricity in their countries when they don't comply with Russian demands. Germany is one of these many countries too dependent on Russian gas to stand on their own two feet. Putin takes full advantage of this. President Trump (peace be upon him) is right about how some of these NATO countries have been self-defeating in their own national defense and financially dragging America down to their folly.
Lol, the issues about gas was due to Ukraine and Ukraine only. Ukraine failed to pay Russia, Ukraine then stole gas. This is why Russia along with Europe invested in pipelines to go around Ukraine. You think they would have invested if Russia was the problem? lol, of course not, they and everyone knows it was Ukraine causing the problems, that is why Europe coordinated with Russia to bypass Ukraine.
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Old 07-12-2018, 01:49 AM
 
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The irony of Trump accusing Germany of being captive to Russia, cannot be under-emphasized.
Projection.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:24 AM
 
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The irony of Trump accusing Germany of being captive to Russia, cannot be under-emphasized.
Anyone who has paid any attention at all is going, "Is this a joke?"

Even Kelly looks like he can't believe what Trump is blathering on about.

Or, it could be that Kelly is disappointed in the breakfast options.

Who knows?



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Old 07-12-2018, 04:32 AM
 
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Too funny.

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Old 07-12-2018, 04:34 AM
 
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Trump continues to have an interesting relationship with reality and the truth....

Russia exports to Germany are 16 Billion per year.

GDP of Germany - 3.5 TRILLION dollars.

So Russia "captures" about .4% of the economy of Germany.

Oh, Germany exports MORE to Russia than Russia to Germany....

What a bunch of BS.

If we want to go to "power" or "energy", Germany gets 10% from Russia and is no way reliant on it. They can get it or substitutes from many many places.

AND, Germany supports all the sanctions against Russia.

It's truly amazing that anyone believes a word out of this guy's trap.
It's truly amazing that anyone believes a word out of libs traps.

Listening comprehensive and understanding the issue is a REAL stretch for some.

The "capture" comment was about how Germany gets MOST of its gas and oil from Russia.

Being Germany has NO MORE COAL plants nor nuclear for its energy, natural gas and oil are their ONLY source of energy.

Just think if in the middle of winter Russia said it would cut off say 50% of its supply. Think about THAT for a while.

TDS is alive and well in la-la land! It is no wonder N.E. liberals are laughed at!
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:41 AM
 
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However it is a global market, and if Saudi all together stopped production, you would see very steep price increases, even if the US did not import a single drop.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but that doesn't change the fact that production is safely within our borders.



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That is why when Saudi ramped up the production, it caused a price crash impacting the US, and when they cit production, it caused a price increase impacting the US.
Correct, their intention was to slow US oil production so they could so they could continue dictating the supply and keep US producers as "swing" producers. They failed and their influence has been greatly diminished.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:41 AM
 
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Uh....cutting off something mid-stream (and, BTW, that was most Ukraine) is a completely different thing than a balanced trade situation.

You can look it up in 100 ways - but Germany doesn't need anything from Russia. The two countries choose to have mutual trade...of a VERY small size. Plenty of Oil off Norway....and it's easy to transport around the world also.

Word is that Trump wants Germany to buy more expensive American LNG....but that would be idiotic for Germany to do. As I said, they are using that small amount (10%) of energy only as as stop-gap in their quest for full renewables. They are almost there....

Trump should mind his own business. Complaining about mutual trade of 20 billion isn't even a rounding error. Next thing Trump will want to weight their bowel movements.

To say nothing of Trump and his Campaign and friends connections to Russian Oligarchs...many of them involved in energy. Why isn't Trump complaining about our local Lukoil gas station? Why isn't he complaining about our imports from Russia (it is known Trump doesn't like the Sanctions...so he wants the US MORE reliant on Russia).

The old pot calling the kettle black. Trump ships our coal to China and much of our energy or resources all over the world...to adversaries. Somehow I don't hear much about that.
" is a completely different thing than a balanced trade situation."

EXACTLY but, YOU want to make the iissue about trade which is NOT what Trump was talking about.

"Plenty of Oil off Norway....and it's easy to transport around the world also."

Then why DON'T they DO IT NOW?

The FACT IS, germane gets MOST of its natural gas and oil from Russia.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:44 AM
 
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Trump continues to have an interesting relationship with reality and the truth....

Russia exports to Germany are 16 Billion per year.

GDP of Germany - 3.5 TRILLION dollars.

So Russia "captures" about .4% of the economy of Germany.

Oh, Germany exports MORE to Russia than Russia to Germany....

What a bunch of BS.

If we want to go to "power" or "energy", Germany gets 10% from Russia and is no way reliant on it. They can get it or substitutes from many many places.

AND, Germany supports all the sanctions against Russia.

It's truly amazing that anyone believes a word out of this guy's trap.
What happens when Russia turns off that cheap natural gas?
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