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Old 03-07-2019, 08:23 AM
 
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Capgemini saw 80% of its visa petitions rejected in the 2018 fiscal year, while Cognizant’s rejection rate stood at 61%.



Capgemini and Cognizant are two companies with high rate of rejections in their H1B applications.

Is there anybody here who can tell more about their business model ?

 
Old 03-07-2019, 08:34 AM
 
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Capgemini saw 80% of its visa petitions rejected in the 2018 fiscal year, while Cognizant’s rejection rate stood at 61%.



Capgemini and Cognizant are two companies with high rate of rejections in their H1B applications.

Is there anybody here who can tell more about their business model ?
Im going to guess
1) Put a job ad with either insane qualifications
or
2) Regular qualifications but a salary half the going rate.
3) When 1 and/or 2 above fail
4) Complain that no US workers are available and get H1B.

Disney only got caught and outed for doing it because they are a big fish.
 
Old 03-08-2019, 10:09 AM
 
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https://www.nearshoreamericas.com/te...pprovals-drop/




Capgemini saw 80% of its visa petitions rejected in the 2018 fiscal year, while Cognizant’s rejection rate stood at 61%.



Capgemini and Cognizant are two companies with high rate of rejections in their H1B applications.

Is there anybody here who can tell more about their business model ?
Good Riddance. It should be at 99% for those companies
 
Old 03-08-2019, 10:40 AM
 
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Maybe if the media and dems would allow our president to get his head above water he would be allowed to fix the India problem. They seem to be more interested in sex, lies, and video while the REAL issues go unattended. Maybe next term he'll have some air. MAGA 2020!
 
Old 03-08-2019, 06:00 PM
 
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Yes but there is something unique in Capgemini and Cognizant. Even infosys, wipro, Tata did not get so many rejections. Is there anyone here who has dealt with these two companies ?
 
Old 03-08-2019, 08:31 PM
 
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Yes but there is something unique in Capgemini and Cognizant. Even infosys, wipro, Tata did not get so many rejections. Is there anyone here who has dealt with these two companies ?
Cognizant is notorious for taking advantage of EB1-C loophole which is one of the reasons for EB2 backlogs which causes H1B slavery.
 
Old 03-09-2019, 03:51 PM
 
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Maybe if the media and dems would allow our president to get his head above water he would be allowed to fix the India problem. They seem to be more interested in sex, lies, and video while the REAL issues go unattended. Maybe next term he'll have some air. MAGA 2020!

I'm an Independent but have to admit I see some truth in this. For all his lukewarm moves Trump is the first president to do much of anything about H-1B visa abuses, and this obsession with constant investigations and the Mueller probe is taking resources away from real policy. (The probe is getting irritating and dragging on way too long, even if the Russians were involved it was in leaking DNC behavior which looks corrupt even to Democrats, meanwhile tons of other countries openly try to sway US elections with their money-- Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey, Egypt, Korea. even Indonesia have all been publicly pointed out to do this. Why no "Mueller probe" for them?). We Independents are the ones who decide US elections and we're getting tired of all the extreme politics, we're interested in practical policy. It's not left or right policy, we're interested in environmental protections and better healthcare on one hand, and curbing H-1B abuses and illegal immigration on the other. We just care about good policy. And Trump at least has tried to address this, something even the strong Obama supporters in my family have openly admitted.



That said, for practical reasons Trump needs to take much stronger moves against the H-1B visa to win reelection in 2020, otherwise he'll lose his base and Independents will either vote for his opponent or stay home. And if Trump loses reelection it means prison time for him, so the stakes are high. Esp. if Trump loses his base. The Dems and government investigators would never toss Trump into prison if his base stays united, as that would risk a civil war. And if Trump wins reelection he's untouchable due to electoral validation. It all depends on whether he has the guts to fulfill his campaign promises on H-1B visa curbs.
 
Old 03-09-2019, 08:09 PM
 
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I'm an Independent but have to admit I see some truth in this. For all his lukewarm moves Trump is the first president to do much of anything about H-1B visa abuses, and this obsession with constant investigations and the Mueller probe is taking resources away from real policy. (The probe is getting irritating and dragging on way too long, even if the Russians were involved it was in leaking DNC behavior which looks corrupt even to Democrats, meanwhile tons of other countries openly try to sway US elections with their money-- Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey, Egypt, Korea. even Indonesia have all been publicly pointed out to do this. Why no "Mueller probe" for them?). We Independents are the ones who decide US elections and we're getting tired of all the extreme politics, we're interested in practical policy. It's not left or right policy, we're interested in environmental protections and better healthcare on one hand, and curbing H-1B abuses and illegal immigration on the other. We just care about good policy. And Trump at least has tried to address this, something even the strong Obama supporters in my family have openly admitted.



That said, for practical reasons Trump needs to take much stronger moves against the H-1B visa to win reelection in 2020, otherwise he'll lose his base and Independents will either vote for his opponent or stay home. And if Trump loses reelection it means prison time for him, so the stakes are high. Esp. if Trump loses his base. The Dems and government investigators would never toss Trump into prison if his base stays united, as that would risk a civil war. And if Trump wins reelection he's untouchable due to electoral validation. It all depends on whether he has the guts to fulfill his campaign promises on H-1B visa curbs.
Good to see fair and balanced points being put forth

Fyi...Its just not right to expect everything from the President himself.

The very nature of politics isn't right. This leads to an understanding that the human nature in itself is in its teens at best. Only way to expect positive things to happen is by proper education.

The formal education that we receive at schools need to be overhauled to introduce reading good books early on.
 
Old 03-09-2019, 10:13 PM
 
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Capgemini saw 80% of its visa petitions rejected in the 2018 fiscal year, while Cognizant’s rejection rate stood at 61%.



Capgemini and Cognizant are two companies with high rate of rejections in their H1B applications.

Is there anybody here who can tell more about their business model ?
Cognizant is officially an US company with headquarters in US. Yet they have around 100,000 people in India and 1000's of people coming in from India in H1B . Earlier they used to file green card for anyone who came in on H1B.

Capgemini may also be US registered and probably were seeking visas. May be thats the reason their rate of rejection is rocketing.

These companies can be punished, but people shouldnt forget that IBM, Accenture etc which are purely American companies, have more headcount in India than USA.
 
Old 03-11-2019, 11:47 AM
 
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Yes but there is something unique in Capgemini and Cognizant. Even infosys, wipro, Tata did not get so many rejections. Is there anyone here who has dealt with these two companies ?
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Cognizant is officially an US company with headquarters in US. Yet they have around 100,000 people in India and 1000's of people coming in from India in H1B . Earlier they used to file green card for anyone who came in on H1B.

Capgemini may also be US registered and probably were seeking visas. May be thats the reason their rate of rejection is rocketing.

These companies can be punished, but people shouldnt forget that IBM, Accenture etc which are purely American companies, have more headcount in India than USA.
Capgemini is actually a French company (headquartered in Paris). (If you've worked with Sogeti, you've worked with Capgemini.) I have experience with consultants from both companies and I've been pretty unimpressed with the people they've brought over from India. Half of Capgemini's global headcount is in India and the majority of their consultants that I've dealt with are Indian as well. I've never seen them build anything scalable, on-time, on-budget, etc. They're as bad as Infosys but at a more premium price. If they're not officially H1B dependent, their IT consulting arm certainly appears to be.


As for Cognizant, here's what 5 seconds of Googling came up with:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogniz...ing_in_the_U.S.


Happy reading.
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