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Old 08-14-2018, 08:05 AM
 
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They have created a Cartel. That have all used their powers against another communications business.
First of all, Infowars is a marketing business. It puts forth bizarre conspiracy theories that cater to the paranoid amongst us, in order to sell vitamin supplements and survivalist items. The websites have not created a cartel. There is no evidence that they communicated with one another. They simply have terms of service that Jones repeatedly violated. When one company chose to take action, it encouraged others to take action. However, there are numerous websites on the internet, and Jones is free to seek out new podiums for his ridiculous theories.
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:06 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Again, a poster unable to distinguish between business and government.

It would be one thing if these businesses were just sole proprietor, DBA's
They are federally regulated under the Corporate umbrella(Fascism)
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:10 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You're just vomiting up a bunch of non-sequiturs and inapplicable concepts. The FCC, colluding, monopoly, anti-trust, racketeering, etc. - none of these apply to the situation at hand. The Hobby Lobby court did not carve out a "communications business" (whatever the hell that means) exception. It bestowed First Amendment rights on corporations, like Facebook.
Well, conflating employee /employer relationship, with a Corporate /Corporate relationship, that is highly regulated under the CDA, does not serve the rational discussion well. They are not governed the same.
There is Contract laws and federal regulations at play, you forget about.
You are coming at this as if it was just you and me making a transaction.
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:10 AM
 
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You make it sound as if INFOwars was employed by these companies...and he was fired.
YouTube and INFOwars are regulated by the Governments Communications Act.
Then to blatantly create a Cartel, colluding with one another.....To silence another company.
I certainly do not make it sound as if INFOwars was employed by these companies.

I make it sound like these companies have terms of service. When people seek to use the podiums provided by these companies, they agree to the terms of service. Jones failed to abide by these terms, and he flagrantly defied them when the companies first took steps to bring Jones into compliance. At this point, he was banned.

There is no cartel, there is no evidence of collusion. There is no effort to silence Jones. He can speak out to his heart's content. He can seek out new podiums willing to host his conspiracy-laden marketing strategy. He can continue to sell his vitamins. His freedom hasn't been impeded in any way.
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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Well, conflating employee /employer relationship, with a Corporate /Corporate relationship, that is highly regulated under the CDA, does not serve the rational discussion well. They are not governed the same.
There is Contract laws and federal regulations at play, you forget about.
You are coming at this as if it was just you and me making a transaction.
No conflation happening. You are simply trying to spin things. And you are failing.
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:13 AM
 
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It would be one thing if these businesses were just sole proprietor, DBA's
They are federally regulated under the Corporate umbrella(Fascism)
Blah-blah-blah. All businesses are regulated. That's a total red herring argument.
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:14 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So wait, Christian baker business owners can deny business but social media platforms can't? Either businesses can deny service or they can't... What is so hard about that?



Bakeries are not regulated under the Federal CDA.
It does this discussion no good, to conflate the two.
It just makes you look like you don't know what you are talking about.


All communications on an open public communications platform, are highly regulated.
Just like the communications on this forum, here.

Unlike a Bakery.
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:16 AM
 
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Youtube has joined the free speech police. The video channel has been terminated.
Hate speech is not free protected speech.The OP needs to learn that.
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:18 AM
 
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Bakeries are not regulated under the Federal CDA.
It does this discussion no good, to conflate the two.
It just makes you look like you don't know what you are talking about.


All communications on an open public communications platform, is highly regulated.
Unlike a Bakery.
Irrelevant.

The Federal CDA does not require that Youtube or other similar companies throw away their terms of service. And you wouldn't like it if it did.

These companies have rights. Infowars has rights. Unfortunately for you, Infowars does not have the right to compel other companies to provide free podiums for its marketing efforts.
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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When defaming doesn't work, there is always silence.
Authoritarian, much?


They thought McCarthyism was bad.... Just wait.
I keep wondering if anyone on the right wing side owns a mirror?
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