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Old 08-07-2018, 03:14 PM
 
Location: My House
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This is just the beginning. There are many more people that are going to be censored in the smokescreen of hate speech and conspiracy theory.
Alex Jones has as much right to spew his hate as much as CNN, FOX, and all the rest of MSM to spew their fake, war pushing news.
Of course he does. Everyone does. But, if the platform you choose doesn't want your content? They can refuse it.

They have a right not to sponsor whatever it is you're saying.

Capitalism!
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:18 PM
 
Location: My House
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Your comparison would be similar as if somebody got banned out of Internet service because of hate speech. Your argument will be the same: The Internet is a private company, just find another one.

This is censorship, plain and simple.
It won't be censorship until a government entity declines to allow him to speak. Which is not what is happening because "the internet" isn't a utility. Internet SERVICE is a utility.

It is not government run, though.
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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It is not hard, they have the right to kick him out. This doesn't change the fact that it is censorship.

Why is this so hard to understand?
Who cares?

I mean, if you want to get technical, any time we are not allowed to say and do whatever we want wherever we want? It is censorship.

So, when I don't get to yell at the library? Censorship. When your grandma says you cannot swear loudly at her dinner table? Censorship.

YouTube has their own Terms of Service. Alex Jones was violating them. YouTube decided to pull the plug on him and it was 100% within their rights.

Just like Grandma stopping you from cursing like a sailor while she served your Sunday dinner.

It was her house and her table.

And her food.

You were free, however, to eat food somewhere else.

And Alex Jones is free to use the Internet... somewhere other than YouTube.
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I'm not the one advocating for government infringement on a companies private property rights, that would be you: communist.
Then Senator Murphy from CT is a communist. He's a senator. He's openly stating that those companies should ban more. And before you say, "he only said what he thinks", might I remind you that the left has absolute melt downs over every last word that President Trump utters or posts on Twitter, and declares he's an authoritarian, dictator, traitor, etc. based on what he says. According to the left, every word said has meaning.

Remember that before you reply.
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:24 PM
 
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Survival of “our democracy” depends on censorship and silencing people we don’t agree with? What happened to support free and open press? I guess that support is only for the select few corporations they approve of.

Have talked to people who never heard of Alex Jones and those that hate him but they all seem to agree that censorship is the wrong thing to do. Sad to see so much support for it on this form.
Huh?

He's free to post his stuff all over the internet, at any site that will have him... or on sites he creates.

Poor Alex.
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:24 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Defamation of character, I believe I pointed you in that direction already?
Even if he defamed them, it’s still not a “threat.”
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Who cares?

I mean, if you want to get technical, any time we are not allowed to say and do whatever we want wherever we want? It is censorship.

So, when I don't get to yell at the library? Censorship. When your grandma says you cannot swear loudly at her dinner table? Censorship.

YouTube has their own Terms of Service. Alex Jones was violating them. YouTube decided to pull the plug on him and it was 100% within their rights.

Just like Grandma stopping you from cursing like a sailor while she served your Sunday dinner.

It was her house and her table.

And her food.

You were free, however, to eat food somewhere else.

And Alex Jones is free to use the Internet... somewhere other than YouTube.
What happened here is like Grandma stopping you from cursing like a sailor while she served Sunday dinner, but did NOT stop your brother from cursing like a sailor while she served Sunday dinner.

Again, if they make the claim that it was because he violated TOS, then they need to show everyone that they are also going after antifa, pedophiles, and others who are promoting violence, hate, and harm to other people.

But that didn't happen.
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:29 PM
 
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Then Senator Murphy from CT is a communist. He's a senator. He's openly stating that those companies should ban more. And before you say, "he only said what he thinks", might I remind you that the left has absolute melt downs over every last word that President Trump utters or posts on Twitter, and declares he's an authoritarian, dictator, traitor, etc. based on what he says. According to the left, every word said has meaning.

Remember that before you reply.
Who cares what some nebulous intangible "left" thinks?

I only care what I think. If I want the opinions of people who self identify right or left, I will ask them not people on the other side who want to smear them.

Trumps tweets, while often laughably and abysmally stupid, are his opinions and he is allowed by Twitter to post them on their platform. Likewise, this guys opinions are also allowed on the platform by twitter.
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:47 PM
 
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big media controlled by left colluding together to silence opposing views. slippery slope but not unexpected. lawsuits coming for sure since it was certainly coordinated.
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Old 08-07-2018, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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First they came for Alex Jones. Eventually they'll come for you.

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Originally Posted by Martin Niemöller
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
--Martin Niemöller speaking out against Nazi rule in Germany.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lPhSreTkXc&t=609s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SIQkSb_wtk&t=12s
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