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Old 08-10-2018, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Originally Posted by spectator11040 View Post
Why do you want me to wade through 246 posts?????? What are you afraid of?

My requests of you were very simple.

1) in one or two words, tell us who "your people" are.

2) Surely you have the sources to back up your accusations. Or do you?


It's not Ben who is the coward, it's YOU. And it's not Ben who is the "sick POS", it's....
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Sure, I’m not going to go searching his entire Twitter page again but whenever two people he doesn’t like are in a debate he uses terms like Iran-Iraq war redux saying he wishes both sides would be destroyed in the process (despite one side invading the other with the help of his favorite president). He went more in depth once saying how the world would have been better if both sides were destroyed, etc.

Even in dumb circumstances like pop culture debates I’ve seen him mention it as a joke. It’s not a joke to me.
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No he just twists facts and speaks fast. He knows little about health insurance, and less about net neutrality. He should stick to SJW facts.

As for emotions, I personally get angry at BS for making fun of the war that 100s of thousands of my people died and claiming he wished it have gone worse for us. The man is a pathetic POS.
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First she’s a social democrat, not a socialist.

Secondly Ben is a horrible human being, read about his worldview, he sees every issue as an excuse to fight for the establishment. Police violence, the war on drugs, the war on terror, imperialism, corporatism, he passionately defends them all.
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Yeah, Ben is Godzilla, just like the latter, he loves butchering innocence. Have you seen his rhetoric on the war in Iraq, or his comments on Reagan’s illegal wars, or how he doesn’t see Palestinians as worthy of life: https://www.creators.com/read/ben-sh...rab-population
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1. It is, Shapiro is no different Buckley and the dozens of commentators who came before him

2. Shapiro is an emotional man, he believes everyone must support the state, that takes an incredible amount of faith and an emotional connection to the subject matter to sustain.
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No, Ben is just another propagandist for the state, it can do no wrong in his eyes.

Police brutality, it’s the black peoples fault, war on drugs? The answer is to support more jails and prisoners (costs tax payer money), drone strikes, illegal arms sales, etc. of course; our enemies are worse, we must stick up to them.

Any regulations, policies meant to help workers; awful he says, instead we need more defense spending (so contractors get more $).

Net neutrality, sides with the government and state backed telecom companies without knowing anything about the issue, as he proved in his video on it.

He’s a propagandist who believes the state can do no wrong, there is nothing new about him.
I don't see how you can defend a man like him.
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Old 08-10-2018, 04:28 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Shapiro would shred that woman.

I'm thinking that she's the darling of dems just like the way Palin was initially for the repugs, until she started to speak too much. All of that 'breath of fresh air' crapola wears off real fast when you realize that there ain't much going on in the background.

That applies to both of those highly misinformed people.
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Old 08-10-2018, 04:42 PM
 
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I’d love to see it too , wouldn’t you ? Of course she’ll never do it .
Since she’ll only stay in the safe space of liberal media where they give her softball questions and she still screws up .
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I don't get it. It sounds like a silly stunt. He's a commentator, right? Why would any politician want to debate a commentator? Candidates debate other candidates. That's the way it works. Haven't you noticed?
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Old 08-10-2018, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Shapiro would shred that woman.

I'm thinking that she's the darling of dems just like the way Palin was initially for the repugs, until she started to speak too much. All of that 'breath of fresh air' crapola wears off real fast when you realize that there ain't much going on in the background.

That applies to both of those highly misinformed people.
Are you a republican?

Or are you one of those moderates who think people who criticize state terrorism and and state corporatism are extremists?
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:36 PM
 
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Did this political wanabee ever go to any school where education was taught?
She wants all these "free for everyone" programs.
How does she acquire the funding for these programs, like the multi trillion dollar medicare for everyone idea?
Her answer is to raise taxes.
Well, if taxes are raised, I guess these "free" programs aren't free at all.
This broad makes dumber and dumber look like college professors.

Bob.
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You contradict yourself. You claim she wants "free" programs and then complain she wants to pay for them. I should take you seriously?
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Pknop, are you legitimately having difficulty understanding the point calguy is making multiple times quoting the word "free"?
You can't seriously be that dense.
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Please, explain to me why. You simply replied with lame insults. Many think this is a valid type of response but it is not but it makes it easy to understand why so many like Shapiro.
It's not my job to make sure you are able to understand simple conversation, but, okay;
Calguy used quotes to emphasize the ironic use of the word, "free".

I did not offer any insults, I'm legitimately amazed at your lack of comprehension.


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You simply showed that you didn't understand his point. Perhaps watching a little more may have helped you.
That is no doubt, the issue.
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:44 PM
 
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Ben Shapiro is an extremely well-read, Harvard educated lawyer, and very skilled at civil debate. But this sounds like a desperate attention grab.

But hiding behind friendly media outlets to make outlandish statements without being challenged, demonizing opponents with slander, and refusing invitations to a civil debate, shouldn't be rewarded with being elected to tax-funded public office.
That's what the title for TV show "Face the Nation" was implying, for example. Politicians exhibiting terrible social skills and preaching to the choir exacerbates the division in the country.

I'm not a big fan of Obama's presidency, but in his 2008 campaign, he had debates with "the other side" on Fox News and campaigned in red states, reasoning with "Joe the plumber" and other skeptics. The Democrats need more of Obama's behavior, and less of Hillary's "deplorable" behavior.
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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I don't get it. It sounds like a silly stunt. He's a commentator, right? Why would any politician want to debate a commentator? Candidates debate other candidates. That's the way it works. Haven't you noticed?
I keep pointing that out. But when have facts ever stopped a GOPer?
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:05 PM
 
Location: in a pond with the other human scum
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Let’s get back on topic .

Anyone think Alexandria would win in a debate with Ben ?
Why? It’s never going to happen and it should never happen, or not until Mr. Shapiro actually faces Ms. Octavio-Cortez in an election.
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:12 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I don't get it. It sounds like a silly stunt. He's a commentator, right? Why would any politician want to debate a commentator? Candidates debate other candidates. That's the way it works. Haven't you noticed?
Exactly. If he's that hot to debate political candidates - perhaps he should run for office.
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Old 08-10-2018, 06:30 PM
 
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It's not my job to make sure you are able to understand simple conversation, but, okay;
Calguy used quotes to emphasize the ironic use of the word, "free".

I did not offer any insults, I'm legitimately amazed at your lack of comprehension.
There is no lack of comprehension. There is a lack of a valid argument against the idea of people being able to access affordable health care when they get sick.
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