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Old 08-23-2018, 07:40 AM
 
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Not following the argument...it takes more than a driver's license to vote...that is just a grant if driving privileges. If you aren't going to have a mass deportation...which would raise all manner of issues...withholding driving privileges for millions of people creates a lot of issues.
I think we need to find a way to make much of our illegal population legal...the ones who have otherwise not been convicted of any major crimes and who have been leading productive lives here...while tightening enforcement of future immigration and making our immigration process more reasonable (such aas fster processing time for applications...which can take years now)

So, reward unlawful behavior again? Is felony ID theft going to just be forgiven or tax evasion? How are Americans going to get their jobs back if millions of illegal aliens are legalized again? Doesn't that also negate our sane annual quotas for legal immigration? Isn't it a slap in the face to immigrants who came the right way or doesn't that matter? We don't need these illegal alien as they are mostly the poor, unskilled and uneducated so why would we make our immigration process more reasonable to accommodate them?


As for your claims that Obama deported more illegal aliens than any other president that's just plain false. He counted those turned away at the border as deportations. He also gave millions of illegal aliens a stay of deportation under DACA and DAPA along with work permits and instructed Homeland Security not to deport any illegal aliens unless they were "convicted" criminals all without congress' permission. His deportation record was dismal.
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Old 08-23-2018, 07:47 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Then also slam the farm that employed him knowing he was an illegal.
Apples and oranges.

However, how do YOU know for sure that the farm knew that he was an illegal?

And I don't understand how liberal/illegal alien protecting people like YOU think that it's only Republicans that hire illegals. That makes no sense at all. Plenty of Dem businesses hire illegals also. Why? Because they are sympathetic to them and believe in open borders, so why wouldn't they hire illegals in order to help them out with an income.

As a woman, I see that there is a downside to all this encouragement of having diversity. Between the uptight Muslims who cover up their women and the Hispanics with their macho cultures and a history of abusing their women*, who wants any of them coming into our country?

* Seeing as how domestic abuse is apparently a valid reason for claiming asylum for women from South and Central America... doesn't it follow that their cultures are accepting of abusing their women? So we don't want their culture in America and putting our own women at risk. Their misogynist attitudes don't stop at our borders.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:01 AM
 
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Conservatives have been highly tolerant of illegal immigration as well. They make money off of it...they often run the companies and farms that benefit or receive campaign donations from those that do. For what it is worth Obama actually stepped up enforcement. But to argue that the way that the Trump administration has handled things as being humane, or to argue that we should uproot and boot millions of hardworking people that we in so many ways encouraged to come here and who have led law abiding lives here for, in many cases, decades, and boot them, many of whom have spent their wholes lives here, and to paint them all with the same broad brush as a psychopathic killer...I could never get behind those things...and I am very proud of that.
Now, tighter enforcement of future immigration coupled with a more reasonable immigration process...that is a different story.

Only those who hire them are tolerant of them and encourage them to come here and they have no lawful right to do that. The majority of regular conservatives want our immigration laws respected and enforced and have felt the negative impact of illegal aliens. Who cares if they are hard working that doesn't excuse them for entering our country illegally and taking jobs, taxes and resources from Americans that they aren't lawfully entitled to!


Who cares if they have been here for a long time? They are here illegally so how is that an excuse to allow them to remain here? Do Americans get a pass on any of our laws just because they didn't get caught breaking them until later?


The only broad brush that is being painted is that they all have violated our immigration laws and most have committed felony ID theft or tax evasion to work here. They also cost us over $100 billion a year and that's just a fact not a broad brush.


Just what is a reasonable immigration process to you? Allow anyone who wants to come here to do so even if we don't have jobs and resources to sustain them? Allow in any poor, unskilled, uneducated person to come here that will be a burden to our society rather than a benefit? Why do you think we have annual quotas for legal immigration?
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:10 AM
 
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What Planet was he from ? Do we have an extradition treaty with them ? Is this why Trump wants a space force ? These illegal aliens have figured out space travel ?

Just how ridiculous are you liberals going to get? Illegal alien is the lawful immigration term for those in our country illegally. Don't like it, tough! Alien simply means foreigner in this case. Ever heard of a Resident Alien Card? Hint....it's not for those from outer space.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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Talking I report. You decide.

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There is a difference between simple or even stupid mistakes and purposefully misleading reporting. MSNBC purposely distorts and misleads.

Thanks for sharing.


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Old 08-23-2018, 08:44 AM
 
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Too bad for him he's not in San Francisco or some other sanctuary city where they would protect him from law enforcement.
Turns out he was on a sanctuary Iowa farm run by a prominent republican family.

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The illegal immigrant who allegedly killed college student Mollie Tibbetts had worked for years at a farm owned by a prominent Iowa Republican family, a report said Tuesday night.

Cristhian Rivera — the 24-year-old man who is suspected of murdering Tibbetts while she was out jogging — was an “employee in good standing†at Yarrabee Farms, which is owned by the family of former Iowa official Craig Lang, according to the Des Moines Register.
https://nypost.com/2018/08/22/suspec...wa-gop-family/
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:48 AM
 
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The prominent republican Iowa family and farm that housed this illegal alien did not do any background check. Perhaps they wanted to employ cheap labor. Illegals would not come here if it not for the employers who willfully exploit them for cheap labor!

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Yarabee Farms, Cristhian Rivera's employer, said Tuesday that they had used the federal E-Verify program to vet Rivera's identity. On Wednesday, officials from the farm acknowledged they had not used the E-Verify system and that Rivera had given them false information.
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Cristhian Rivera, the man accused in the death of Mollie Tibbetts, worked for a Brooklyn-area farm owned by the brother of a prominent Iowa Republican.
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In a statement Tuesday night, Dane Lang, of Yarrabee Farms, said Rivera was an “employee in good standing” and was “shocked to hear” Rivera was implicated.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...ng/1059482002/
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Prominent GOP family employs illegal alien who goes on to murder Mollie Tibbets.

Pubs just HAVE to get themselves that cheap illegal labor.

It should start to dawn on a few Trumplings that illegal immigration is just another facet of corporate welfare.

And that's why Pubs never want to use employer sanctions to address illegal immigration.

"Little people" like Mollie Tibbets?

Can't allow them to get in the way of profits.


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Old 08-23-2018, 08:56 AM
 
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There are like 5 billion posts in this thread, far more than in the bombshell Trump felony threads. Just shows that C-D politics has a certain, um, "political orientation" where "but Mexicans!" is a bigger deal than a President mass-committing felonies and on the verge of removal.

Also funny that there are like a million responses desperately trying to defend the wealthy Trumpie farmer, who just like Trump, appears to be a big fan of hiring illegals. No logical disconnect there. Carry on, Cult members...
Because only TDS infected leftists care about Trump "going down" AMERICANS care about illegals killing their family members.
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:05 AM
miu
 
Location: MA/NH
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Pubs just HAVE to get themselves that cheap illegal labor.

It should start to dawn on a few Trumplings that illegal immigration is just another facet of corporate welfare.

And that's why Pubs never want to use employer sanctions to address illegal immigration.

"Little people" like Mollie Tibbets?

Can't allow them to get in the way of profits.


What? I know plenty of Dem owned and run restaurants and catering companies, and they ALL need and use cheap labour also. And they also employ a LOT of Hispanics.

And BTW minimum wage was never meant to be a LIVING wage to raise a family on.
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