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View Poll Results: How many votes will Brett Kavanaugh get for confirmation in the Senate?
61 or more 63 13.55%
58-60 32 6.88%
55-57 61 13.12%
50-54 198 42.58%
49 or less 111 23.87%
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Old 09-27-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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Thus far, I think the Dems are winning in the court of public opinion, relying on hysterical emotion instead of facts.

On the facts, rational people watching understand where Mitchell is going and how she has sewn seeds of doubt. However, many watching will not see it that way, because they're focused on emotions.

Kavenaugh will probably have to be withdrawn. Let's see if they can bring down Amy Barrett.

 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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Thank you for this. I'm not able to watch. If she is at all credible, this is over for Kavanaugh.
She's extremely credible. Kavanaugh is supposed to testify after they wrap her testimony up in a bit.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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What did you guys think after Ford used and thoroughly explained processes/words such as etiology, multifactorial, hippocampus, ptsd, uproarious laughter, norepinephrine, etc. etc. etc. then revealed:

"I don't know what exculpatory means" *eye roll*
 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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No, she said there WAS an AV record via the test administrator's computer, and that it might have been the day after the funeral. The test was given in a meeting room at the hotel, for convenience, since she had a flight to NH upcoming.

No, she said there was a computer set up and she assumed it was being recorded but did not know.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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Ford described the two boys as drunk and laughing. They all wrestled on the bed. Sounds to me like they were having fun and got too rough. That's why I'm interested in hearing what the boy who says he was there has to say. If they are going to question Mark Judge, who says he wasn't there, they should question him, too.
"Wrestled?" No, she was fighting off a sexual attack. The attackers may have been "having fun" - Christine Blasey (Ford, as she is now) certainly wasn't. She went upstairs to use the bathroom, never made it as she was grabbed and forced and locked into the adjacent bedroom, where she was physically overpowered, and assaulted by two drunken young men who both outnumbered and outweighed her. That's not exactly "having fun and getting too rough".

I agree that Mark Judge needs to be questioned, and the other boy should be located if possible and questioned as well - but if he said he was there, I missed that - can you provide a link? Also, this would reveal his identity, which has remained unknown as far as I can tell.

. I think it's time for the FBI to step in to help locate these men and provide answers to some pretty obvious questions, if Kavanaugh doesn't step out.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:03 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Why do you keep asking the same question? Whoever has jurisdiction, just as in the rest of America. No statute of limitations on rape in Maryland. Investigate the allegations wherever they happened, and have local authorities arrest the perpetrators if warranted. If the accuser made knowingly false allegations, arrest her. Not rocket science. Look into it. That's fair.
I agree. The problem is that the accusers have so far refused to file a complaint in the correct jurisdiction(s):
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The FBI has already told everyone involved that they do not have the jurisdiction to investigate the allegations.

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"Spokesmen for state and county police said Friday they would not investigate unless they received a complaint — which they said has not happened. State police also said that, in any case, they have an agreement with county police that means local officials investigate such crimes in their jurisdiction."
Gov. Hogan rules out state police investigation of Kavanaugh allegations; Montgomery County police not investigating - Baltimore Sun

The accusers HAVE to file a complaint with the appropriate local/state authorities to have the allegations investigated. They STILL have not done so. Why not?
 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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It's the Republicans who control the hearing who wouldn't let anyone else be called as a witness for either side. We wouldn't be hearing from anyone other than Kavanaugh.
If the allegations are true, democrats should start their impeachment strategy for Kavanaugh now. Swetnick's allegations are very serious, and would have left many witnesses. Investigate them, with private investigators at first if law enforcement won't help, gather evidence, go to authorities, and impeach him in six months or a year.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:03 AM
 
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Even Fox News is admitting she is credible.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Thus far, I think the Dems are winning in the court of public opinion, relying on hysterical emotion instead of facts.

On the facts, rational people watching understand where Mitchell is going and how she has sewn seeds of doubt. However, many watching will not see it that way, because they're focused on emotions.

Kavenaugh will probably have to be withdrawn. Let's see if they can bring down Amy Barrett.
Barrett is not qualified yet for the SCOTUS. She's only been an appeals court judge for what like 1 year?
 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:03 AM
 
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I think maybe that's what Mitchell was getting at with questions about if the test was recorded on video. A check into the examiner may be in order.



The credibility of the polygraph is now in question. It doesn't detect lies, it detects physiological factors. You can't take it on a day when you are already enotional and physically upset, like right after a funeral.
This is why I said she should be asked in she was on any medication at or before the time of the poly. If she had taken anything for anxiety (flying, funeral) it would negate the test.
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