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Old 09-15-2018, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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So instead of dealing with her at the door he backed up 15 feet across the room? And then she shot him? Why not while face to face a couple of feet apart?

All pretty much absurd. If the confrontation occurred at the door there probably would not have been a shooting.

Face it. The door opened and he had no role. And then he appeared. Too bad. If he had stayed in bed she would have noticed the problem as soon as she turned the lights on.

The whole thing is a cascade of bad things happening in sequence. Any small change would have stopped it all.
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:33 PM
 
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Six witnesses said they heard banging and yelling.
Source?
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:37 PM
 
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So instead of dealing with her at the door he backed up 15 feet across the room? And then she shot him? Why not while face to face a couple of feet apart?

All pretty much absurd. If the confrontation occurred at the door there probably would not have been a shooting.

Face it. The door opened and he had no role. And then he appeared. Too bad. If he had stayed in bed she would have noticed the problem as soon as she turned the lights on.

The whole thing is a cascade of bad things happening in sequence. Any small change would have stopped it all.
That's what I think. All of it was due to Officer Guyger's negligence though.
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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That's what I think. All of it was due to Officer Guyger's negligence though.
The officer made an accidental error. Where was she negligent? Negligent and wrong are not the same thing.
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:51 PM
 
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So instead of dealing with her at the door he backed up 15 feet across the room? And then she shot him? Why not while face to face a couple of feet apart?
Hmm.

If she pulled her gun and went naz, and he backed away from her into the apartment....
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:55 PM
 
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https://www.businessinsider.com/ambe...18-9?r=UK&IR=T
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Hmm.

If she pulled her gun and went naz, and he backed away from her into the apartment....
This guy appears rational. Any rational person would turn and run. And at the start he had a steel door to hold between them. For an apparently smart accountant backing away appears dumb. And shooting a guy backing away would appear dumb for of officer.

So our victim got killed for idiocy squared?
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:57 PM
 
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There's nothing to support your made up theory. So why did she knowingly go to his apartment and why did she shoot him since you know everything that happened? And why didn't she come up with a less incriminating story?
I don't know everything that happened. I just know he didn't leave his door open like she said.
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:57 PM
 
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The officer made an accidental error. Where was she negligent? Negligent and wrong are not the same thing.
Too many "accidental errors." Parking on the wrong floor.

Not realizing it all the way to an apartment with a different number beside the door. This is where "accidental error" stops.

Then...

Not seeing or feeling a mat in front of the door. Who does that?

When her key card didn't unlock the door, not stepping back to wonder why. Who does that?

If she found the door unlocked, not stepping back to wonder why. Who does that?

If the door was locked and Jean opened it, not wondering for a moment if she were not at the wrong apartment. Who does that?

If the door was open and she entered, not realizing it wasn't her apartment. Who does that?
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:05 PM
 
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The officer made an accidental error. Where was she negligent? Negligent and wrong are not the same thing.
She was negligent for mistaking and entering someone else's apartment for her own. This whole thing wouldn't have happened if not for that negligent act. Negligent, accidental error and wrong mean the same thing. You don't have to intend to kill someone for manslaughter, you just have to be careless or negligent.
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